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tyreman 07-06-2013 06:25 PM

I don't race in your region, but know people that do, so thought an outsiders view might be good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by racingdwarf (Post 780425)

simple answear, if you race more than one class, and it causes a situation were you cannot Marshall the race after yours or the final you need to YOU MUST SUPPLY A MARSHALTO REPLACE YOU,IF YOU CANNOT YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO START YOUR RACE and you will have to marshal. Also the person you supply must be able to do the job, and must be a BRCA member.

The problem stems from effectively running 2 regional one 1 day, you can't stop the A finalist from running if the organisers put all of the A finals together, as that is out of there control (and will effectively stop them scoring points that go towards the EOS finals qualification). As for the short course it's not a recognised regional points scoring class, so should only ever be a support class, and if it starts to compromise the regional event (ie not allowing enough time between heats/finals), it shouldn't be run.

And its up to you, not the race director or referee to sort out

If the club run the meeting where there are no time gaps between A finals then its the clubs responsibility to provide cover, as the driver has paid to compete.

If it causes such a problem why not start running each class on spate days.

Also on the subject we do at some meetings have some very young racers, now Im 110% for this as the young are the future of the hobby, but in one case a young lad who's feet were a good 4inches from the ground when he sat on the seat at his marshal point, was marshalling one of the nastiest and hardest parts of the track and realy should have been swapped to safer position for the sake of safety


colin76 07-06-2013 07:07 PM

i have not read all of the comments yet but just to clear a couple of bits up. at colchester we had 'A' finals after one another due to fact it was 3leg 'A' finals and one leg for all others. hopefully this sunday it will be 'C' to 'A' leg 1, then repeated etc. i have an that we will be trying this weekend too.

Chesty 07-06-2013 07:47 PM

Agree completely with tyreman regarding those running two classes.

I don't understand the 'if they wanna do two classes, make them find a stand in Marshall' posts.

It's normal around regions all over the uk to have drivers competing in both 2wd & 4wd classes. Just because we happen to run both on the same day shouldn't prevent it... It's not the drivers fault.:thumbdown:

It can only become a problem marshalling when: a) you qualify at the bottom of one class & the top of the other, b) you're placed in different ability heats for each class, or c) the race organisers run the finals in a funny order:woot:

racingdwarf 07-06-2013 09:21 PM

I will try to answer a few questions for those that don't race in our region.

1st off, we run both classes on the same day as when the AGM took place I don't think anyone would believe the numbers we are getting this year, if we had run 2wd and 4wd on different sundays last year we would have got about 12 people at 2wd and 8 in 4wd...makes for a dull day. this is also the reason short course was brought in to the region, to boost attendance as in general it was a case of getting as many people to race as possible....then out of the blue 50+ booked into the 1st meeting:woot:
now yer the region could dump short course half way through, nice for those who spent a small fortune on one to race.

2nd on the marshal front, yer I understand due to the fact both classes are run on the same day you have a right to race, but some of the clubs don't have more than 3 to 4 people at the venue, so sorting a volunteer from the club can be tricky. but not impossible but will lengthen the time the meeting will take as you will have to delay to find marshals to cover empty points.....this means the meeting will take hours, and it would seem from the last meeting some racers don't want to be home late, but thats another bag of worms.:bored:

3rd would be interesting to see if the numbers held up if we were to separate the classes to different meetings on different days as I wonder how many would dump a class as they wouldn't want all the extra travel??? i know I would have to as my son races 2wd and I race 4wd so I can watch him race, I would have to dump 4wd as I live 90+miles each way from most meetings and simple cant aford the cost of travel or the extra sundays

SimonW 08-06-2013 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spindles69 (Post 780614)
Prime example of how its meant to be done,go to maritime racing and get a few pointers from a Mr Ian Knight.
His way is the best i have seen of how to run a meeting.
He is blunt and to the point,but everybody knows that's the way it is or go home.

Couldn't agree more.

To those running in more than 1 class you should look at the heat listings more closely when they are posted and point out any potential problems you may have to race control so they can help you.
It is YOUR responsibility to marshal the race after your own not the clubs.

jcb 08-06-2013 09:27 AM

Personally I thought the marshalling standard had been pretty good compared to previous years.

There is always room for improvement though.


My feeling on some of the posts is that racers should abide by the BRCA rules if they want to compete in a regional championship. For those that haven't read them they cover more than just batteries and motors!!


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