Thumbs down for the staggered starts for me too, i know the heats are supposed to be to get the best time for your position in the finals but theres no racing except against the clock.

A prime example of why we shouldn't have staggered starts was the tc A 3rd heat, Mark and Gary raced bumper to bumper for what must have been 6 laps and was brilliant to watch.

I think it would be a good idea to run the same track layout for 4 weeks and as was mentioned by Paul (and myself in an earlier post:rolleyes:) there is an A4 binder which has about 8 or so track layouts which we can work from.

How easy would it be to set up a site to put the results on from the nights racing? Do you just save the results on a memory stick and transfer them across to the site?
If it was easy enough to do i would do it.:thumbsup:

and finally.... where was Mr Anderson???, i sneaked into the A final again- probably cos you wern't there and Ray had a stinker:lol:

See you's mon,
Mal

About a 10 min job if you always do it from the same PC/Laptop, after it's been set up and done once.

so is it a case of me saving the results from the nights racing, taking them home and putting the results on my laptop Bill or do you have to use the laptop that has been used for the timing?

Either

The most technical part is how you actually upload the files to the net. Is there an FTP or upload facility on both, and can you connect to broadband with both? Do you have a domain you can FTP files to?

If you can do that, at home, from the club laptop, then do so as this saves the copy from one machine to the other. Like everything, there is always more than one way to skin the cat. Not a problem to copy the HTM files/folders in one go from one laptop to another.

PM me your mob number if you want a quick overview - we could have a longer run through it on a Monday night.

If you do staggered starts then you may aswell sell your arse to the devil. Whats the point in 'racing' if you gap the starts? Major thumbs down!

I have a suggestion, Mark may not want to do it, but should we not ellect Mark as 'Head Gaffa' of the club? That way he can make all the decisions and if you don't like it you dont have to race? After all 'A camel is horse designed by a comitee'! and this horse is getting two lumpy with everyone hoying there 4 pennith in. It seems to me there are too many ppl who have ideas on the keyboard but not on the night? Mark has run this club pretty much single handedly thus far and I think hes doing a great job so why not put him in charge? His decision is final? I raced at a NITRO club that 'Phil the ear' Ran and it was the best RC club about (for a while) because it was his decision on rules etc and you had to like it or lump it. He ran it like a business rather than a Union. Just a suggestion :thumbsup:

Totally agree with what Harry is saying, Mark is doing a brilliant job, it gets my vote for the final word coming from Mark :thumbsup:

I think people have the wrong impression on what a staggered start is
Their is only seconds between racers at the start so certainly doesn't stop racing it just stops the mass pileup at the first corner I only mentioned it because I have noticed that ever buggy race I have been in I have deliberately started last and by the end of the second corner I have overtaken 3 or 4 people who have crashed at the first corner hence driving round marshals and possible damage to my car running a grid start in theory is exactly the same as a staggered start as people have further to go than other so are at a disadvantage but some tend to jump the start and get through the line as the race starts hence still being counted if you were to jump a staggered start your first lap would not count

But overall I must say I am thoroughly enjoying buggy racing and now look forward to a Monday night racing I am not really bothered about how we start as I say I am always at the back anyway due to never finishing a race, I might get round to buying a new servo one day

Keep up the good work I agree that it's good to have someone in overall charge but I also think that a club runs round it's members so discussions like this are productive.

As most of you know i also run the barley mow club and have raced at several other clubs ,teeside,jarrow,Gateshead,Washington and a been to a few nationals were staggered starts were always used I had never heard of anyone not liking them so I will now check up with my club to see if they think it's better with a normal start, so again thanks for all the comments

Unfortunately I think I will be missing on Monday but see you the week after

Hi
AS for the idea of no say and lump it well sounds like a bad idea to me
thats not how you run a club

And as for staggered start well its just like qualifing in F1 then you could call the final the main race but as thay say no say

Just to let the Tyne/Met members know that Mark R "IS" the voted and elected chairman of this club, and has been since last year. Also it was his "quest" to find a new venue so all could carry on racing. You have to admit that he, Paul, and Mike have done a "BLOODY GOOD JOB".
So, let us ALL stop this quibiling and try and "enjoy" our nights racing.

The "old man":):thumbsup:

Well said ray:thumbsup:

The AGM will be coming up again in a few months, so lets have a better discussion then on posssible changes to format & discussions on heat split etc..then rather than over the forums. Lets leave the elected members to run the meetings and make desicions on the race night as required hopefully keeping the majority happy and enjoy racing!

and finally.... where was Mr Anderson???, i sneaked into the A final again- probably cos you wern't there and Ray had a stinker:lol:

See you's mon,
Mal[/QUOTE]

hi bud, the wife was at work til 7pm, that meant i didnt get the car til 715pm, i could of got down for 730pm but i didnt want to get dirty looks all night by the hard working people that set the track out, also didnt fancy the 1 pound late fee:woot:, anyway i wanted to let u get in the A finals again so well done for that, i will bring camera along on monday and take some photos, will try to upload on oople if pos, better go now, nothing worse when people hog this site and go on and on and on and on and on and on and fastwheels cough cough:p

Suggestion Rejected

Seig Heil :woot:

Bravo "oldun"

Let me join you in congratulating all who organise, promote, and nurture this club through their selfless efforts.

No one including me wants to detract from any of the positives I'm sure, but it would be detrimental to any club if those members who are capable of independent thought failed to exercise that function, we must all strive to meet the challenge to suggest possible improvements, after all if they had scrapped the "Wheel" at its inception this whole thread would be academic (for those who struggle to understand this concept just 'Google It'

Change is the only constant, and as the circumstance changes around you, you need to adapt ahead of time to take advantage of it.

Are you smoking the ganja?

That's what I thought, elementary dear Watson!

All plans are good and well spoken but at the end of the day I think 1 person should be in charge as I said before

There are other clubs or car parks u can runyour car round in. It takes a lot of commitment from the organisers to run this club every week and for no profit other than creating a place to race. We all want different things but at the end of the day we all want somewhere to race so its about compromise.

Mark and the guys who put themselves forward to run the club should have the last say IMO. If we all throw our 65pence pieces in over the net the club will go no-where. and if Im totally honest I think forums are bad crack as Ive seen in the past ppl just get 'bitchy' about stuff. Lets agree that Mark has final say on things and thats life? if you dont like it then put yourself forward at the AGM. I'm happy to discuss this on Mon night, infact personally I think we should have a short club meeting and miss a heat so that we can all air our views?

This is not an attack on anyone but I think we should all discuss our views on the club face to face and any views should be done in person rather than in this forum? Im personally happy with how things are but maybe im in the minority? Lets chat Monday

Great to read that the club has Captain Mark at the helm, and with his trusty 1st Mates they are doing a great job. ( I may not be there much but I can still read :D )

Like every ship, it needs a captain who listens to his mates, who in turn take note of the seamen (no jokes please) otherwise we end up like Captain Bligh.
On the other hand, any seamen who get out of hand (no more jokes please) can be made to walk the plank.

Discourse is good - nasty petty oople disagreements are bad, practice making positive suggestions. :thumbsup:

(hope that is less than a penny worth - I have to economise these days)

By the way - any one else put the word "It" in to Google as suggested above? You get a load of rubbish - nothing about wheels, racing or anything relevant at all :(

This is getting amusing. Been reluctant chairman for 2.5 years at next AGM. Yes I know the half is confusing but the chairman stopped racing half wH through one year. Anyone wanting to stand at the next please do, I'll vote for you! On staggered starts, yes I fully u derstand how they work, the problem is that while I spent six laps on monday virtually pushing Gary around the track I couldn't pass him. So he won the heat. Had I started. Second behind him I'd have won even tho I couldn't pass and finished behind him. It detracts from the ra ing when it's really close. And Peter, there is NO late fee???? Always said I'd rather people skip setup or tidyup when there's a genuine reason like finishing work late or leaving early for nightshift than them not race at all so get your self along next time late or not. Ok tired of typing on my phone now.
Mark (club dictator) ;-)

Oh Dear

This is what Fastwheels is on about people not understanding the posts
I think you need to google (Wheel) not (it)
never mind :D:D

As Fastwheels had the idea about the walkway up the straight as for somewhere to marshell. And it worked great.

As said before in this case no one is calling Mark or his team the club runs well week to week :thumbsup::thumbsup:

What has been suggested is some small changes to try and improve the racing and enjoyment though the night manily it has started about the buggy heat where i may add some of the main club members in the buggy heat including myself would like to see two heats only if numbers on the night allow.This was to try and split the driving skill to enjoy the race better for both newbies and pro end.Or as said in one of the early posts have the touring cars all together one week and the buggys the next seems fair to me.
Or run all the buggys togther in one heat and all the touring cars in another so have two heats and we could have 6 rounds yes a extra round.:woot::woot:

One of the main reasons behind haveing two heat of buggys if number allow is for the New drivers (beginners) as its off putting for someone new to race with fast cars flying past you all the time and at the end of the day its thoses new drivers who come to the club that keep it alive


Well if there was no forums now i don't think clubs would run or exsit in modern times to be honest things have moved on alot and most people now adays contact each other using the web to organise events ect

and as for The final say on things or lump it well i think thats a poor suggestion as to how a club to be run.
I no Mark from way back at longbenton long time before most tynemet racers and i don't think at all he would want that.
nobody wants the Seig Heil method lets be fair and i'll go to say that Mark won't want that to.


All in Mark is doing a good job

Roll on Monday my car is fixed and ready for action
:D:D

Oh dear - and another example of someone not understanding - I did wonder if someone could take my comment seriously - I do apologise for not putting a bunch of smilies at the end like these :blush: ;) :D :woot: :thumbsup: :p

Just proves everyone's sense of humour is slightly different ;)