Originally Posted by julianb (Post 973080)

This is the problem, as Steve has already pointed out to be fair. It's hard to charge for a days work, when others are prepared to churn 'em out for 25-30 quid. Or bought off ebay, and including the shell for much the same money!!

Personally, I'm quite satisfied keeping it on the download these days, only painting for my lad, myself and a small handful of close friends. Were I to put my graphic designers head on, I'd be charging the nominal £30 an hour right off the bat. But we all know that's not going to fly!!! I'd go hungry real quick, charging £150 for the average 5-hour paintjob. Lol!!!

Originally Posted by julianb (Post 973061)

I'm on your page Steve. Dialled my painting right back. Free work really doesn't appeal. A solid days work plus materials should pay a commensurate rate. Got tired of being robbed.

Bitter and jaded? Yes a bit.

Its an all too familiar cycle, seeing talented painters explode onto the forum, full of enthusiasm, then eventually all reach the same point.

Rant over!

J

Originally Posted by daz75 (Post 973072)

Is charging more not an option? I was given the price for the shells I had painted I didn't barter the cost

Originally Posted by julianb (Post 973080)

This is the problem, as Steve has already pointed out to be fair. It's hard to charge for a days work, when others are prepared to churn 'em out for 25-30 quid. Or bought off ebay, and including the shell for much the same money!!

Personally, I'm quite satisfied keeping it on the download these days, only painting for my lad, myself and a small handful of close friends. Were I to put my graphic designers head on, I'd be charging the nominal £30 an hour right off the bat. But we all know that's not going to fly!!! I'd go hungry real quick, charging £150 for the average 5-hour paintjob. Lol!!!

Originally Posted by Steveonamission (Post 973205)

They are what they are, it's the context of them that makes them non- profitable in terms of money - They just get smashed up. I just wanted a hobby to replace racing them (got out because of too many ego's) but have a love hate relationship with this too, hence I've quit once, quitting again now :lol:

Admittedly I was just painting pre-paints and selling them on eBay (because I don't want to meet someones deadline) but unfortunately some times I get stuck with them for months so I do drop the prices and give them away.

Time is money though and all that.

Originally Posted by G-Kenny (Post 973228)

Its funny how pre-paints work, or dont. I've tried doing a few in the past but i just dont find them that popular, as you say, you can sit with them for months, other times you've a que waiting for prepaints. I guess people like what they like and would rather get a custom job done.

Originally Posted by Steveonamission (Post 974766)

This Hobbynox stuff didn't travel well. Seems the formula split (didn't work stirring it either, comes out translucent grey, sacked it off).