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lazysurfer 15-09-2011 08:31 PM

Rounds vs Heats vs Relaxing
 
Wow the debate on numbers of rounds and heats has certainly woken you lot up. Sorry to hear the pace of the night is the reason you haven't been back Bill. The club is run for everyone so issues such as this are open to votes but last time the frantic pace was mentioned the only ones who responded were against loosing a round,it would be easier for me but I, like those who expressed a view think that if we make the effort to put the track out and away, turn up and pay to race we may as well get in as much racing as possible. As for time to relax & chat if I can fit socialising in I'm sure the rest of you can and I can honestly say I've NEVER considered racing relaxing, for that there's the old tradition of the pub afterwards which could be ressurected?
If the club as a whole wants to drop a round then fine but if people want to get in as many races as possible I think we owe it to them to do that, If anyone wants to sit out a round there's nothing stopping them.
As for preferring to drop a round than run a mixed heat I think it would be an idea to have tried before writing it off. I ve raced mixed heats with Buckle before and it was VERY close!
Were running 3 mins between heats at the moment so 4 rounds of 4 heats would need to reduce to 2 mins between rather than 1 which would be too tight. Or as mentioned, more people to set out the track to start earlier :-)
As I mentioned the club as a whole must decide but remember, slow the pace AND have to fit in 4 rounds and we go from 5 races per night to 3 and I'm sure nobody wants to loose 2 races!

lazysurfer 15-09-2011 08:52 PM

Rounds vs Heats vs Relaxing
 
Or maybe a mixed heat of the fast drivers????
Only going to be needed when we have 10 or more in a class.
If we do need 4 heats I think dropping a round would probably be the way to go tho. Compromise - that's what its all about - will give us both hectic and relaxing noghts depending on how many turn up. Well will give you lot relaxing nights with 4 heats anyway,not me! ;-)

TangerineDream 15-09-2011 09:53 PM

Question for buggies, did people prefer having some jumps / obstacles out??
I thought the racing was still extremely close (Buckle knows what I'm on about :D) and it made things a bit more interesting.

Also if anyone has a decent camera, maybe we could get some updated pics / video links on here for the people who are showing interest.

Jim I agree with your point on it being hard to see the edges of the track, this week was better than the week earlier but still tricky with so many on the podium, how about trying the straight next to the rostrum next week to see what people think of that??

TangerineDream 15-09-2011 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Mac (Post 554347)
:pJim! I ment the time at the club can be enjoyable, and aggro at the same time. Not all this written aggro.:p:p:woot:

Old Raymondo, did you manage to get sorted with lipos and a charger?

FastWheels 15-09-2011 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TangerineDream (Post 554471)
Jim I agree with your point on it being hard to see the edges of the track, this week was better than the week earlier but still tricky with so many on the podium, how about trying the straight next to the rostrum next week to see what people think of that??

Pity we couldn't have the podium facing down the length of the hall rather than across it as that would give a clearer view of the track, also a more elaborate and higher podium would dramatically improve the perspective.

But to address your point, yes i think it would be worth trying the straight at the Rostrum side. :)

MarcF 16-09-2011 07:35 AM

Just my opinion but I think that will be worse having the fastest part of the track where it's harder to see and next to your feet...it's only the other week where i have found it a bit awkward (where we had a straight from bottom corner to the end of rostrum) but it just depends on the layout

Ray Mac 16-09-2011 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TangerineDream (Post 554473)
Old Raymondo, did you manage to get sorted with lipos and a charger?


Thanks for asking Paul, well! things are looking very promising at the moment. After over 30years of ni-cads and their equivalent, it's some change to li-pos and balance chargers. Let's see if this change is as good as a rest.:confused::confused: :eh?:

lazysurfer 16-09-2011 05:42 PM

Podium
 
we could try the opposite end to the pits although being a big hall it may be a bit too far. Agree with Marc that the straight next topodium is ten times worse. just pulling the "near" corners further into the centre helps or just take a tight line and don't run as wide into the corner of the hall where you cant see!

Ray Mac 16-09-2011 07:11 PM

Podium
 
Over the time I've been "racing", the type of tracks that seem cause the least bother, are quite open, and have the technical part infront of the "rostrum". The less technical track and more open, the less the marshalls should be needed, and "enjoyed" more. What do you think! That is only my oppinion, make of it what you will. :confused::eh?:

FastWheels 16-09-2011 10:34 PM

the Wisdom of Solomon still beats in your breast Ray. :thumbsup:

MR ANDERSON 17-09-2011 10:24 AM


MR ANDERSON 17-09-2011 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TangerineDream (Post 554471)
Question for buggies, did people prefer having some jumps / obstacles out??
I thought the racing was still extremely close (Buckle knows what I'm on about :D) and it made things a bit more interesting.

Also if anyone has a decent camera, maybe we could get some updated pics / video links on here for the people who are showing interest.

Jim I agree with your point on it being hard to see the edges of the track, this week was better than the week earlier but still tricky with so many on the podium, how about trying the straight next to the rostrum next week to see what people think of that??

heres a link to some video footage incase u missed it, taken on 27-06-2011 by my brother robert anderson, enjoy:thumbsup:

http://youtu.be/wmDlj3yOQ4Q

hazzelarator 17-09-2011 11:20 AM

I Know I havn't been for a while but will be back Monday, anyway as it goes, I can see what people are saying about low turn around time (and im usually the guy struggling to fire my car back together in time) but I find that part of it, exciting in itself. And if you don't, and want more laid back racing then surely you can just opt out of a round?
I agree with Mark that if your making the effort and going to the cost of doing this hobby you may aswell do it as much as possible on the night? And as afore mentioned, if you don't agree then you don't have to, just take a round off. :thumbsup:
Not sure about mixed heat, however if it's for people who are finding their feet in RC racing then it shouldn't matter too much anyway? It's all important track time at the end of the day?
I do like the idea of a pub stop after racing too, that should be strongly encouraged. What about having a £1 charge if you don't put the track away or put it out and that can be a 'fighting fund' for the bar afterwards? :D

Ray Mac 17-09-2011 03:26 PM

OK Jim! you've just got to take the proverbial haven't you!!

lazysurfer 17-09-2011 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hazzelarator (Post 554956)
I Know I havn't been for a while but will be back Monday, anyway as it goes, I can see what people are saying about low turn around time (and im usually the guy struggling to fire my car back together in time) but I find that part of it, exciting in itself. And if you don't, and want more laid back racing then surely you can just opt out of a round?
I agree with Mark that if your making the effort and going to the cost of doing this hobby you may aswell do it as much as possible on the night? And as afore mentioned, if you don't agree then you don't have to, just take a round off. :thumbsup:
Not sure about mixed heat, however if it's for people who are finding their feet in RC racing then it shouldn't matter too much anyway? It's all important track time at the end of the day?
I do like the idea of a pub stop after racing too, that should be strongly encouraged. What about having a £1 charge if you don't put the track away or put it out and that can be a fighting fund' for the bar afterwards? :D

Bout time you got yourself back Hazz! Not sure fining people is a good idea mind although it is frustrating how many people arrive when the tracks half built by the same few earlybirds every week

Steven Forster 17-09-2011 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hazzelarator (Post 554956)
I Know I havn't been for a while but will be back Monday, anyway as it goes, I can see what people are saying about low turn around time (and im usually the guy struggling to fire my car back together in time) but I find that part of it, exciting in itself. And if you don't, and want more laid back racing then surely you can just opt out of a round?
I agree with Mark that if your making the effort and going to the cost of doing this hobby you may aswell do it as much as possible on the night? And as afore mentioned, if you don't agree then you don't have to, just take a round off. :thumbsup:
Not sure about mixed heat, however if it's for people who are finding their feet in RC racing then it shouldn't matter too much anyway? It's all important track time at the end of the day?
I do like the idea of a pub stop after racing too, that should be strongly encouraged. What about having a £1 charge if you don't put the track away or put it out and that can be a 'fighting fund' for the bar afterwards? :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazysurfer (Post 555112)
Bout time you got yourself back Hazz! Not sure fining people is a good idea mind although it is frustrating how many people arrive when the tracks half built by the same few earlybirds every week


From my point of view i can understand the point about needing more people to help put the track away but idont think that charging people extra for not helping isnt going to help the club out as for some of the racers are under 10 years old so obviously the dads will want to get them home as soon as possible to go to bed and as for other people who work shifts like me the only time i can race is when im on early shift which is 6-2:30 and as i work 18 mile i get up at 4:30am and also i live 25 mile away from tyne met so i wanna get home as soon as i can to go to bed ready for another early start....................:blush::eh?:

cheapskate 18-09-2011 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dexter24 (Post 555127)
From my point of view i can understand the point about needing more people to help put the track away but idont think that charging people extra for not helping isnt going to help the club out as for some of the racers are under 10 years old so obviously the dads will want to get them home as soon as possible to go to bed and as for other people who work shifts like me the only time i can race is when im on early shift which is 6-2:30 and as i work 18 mile i get up at 4:30am and also i live 25 mile away from tyne met so i wanna get home as soon as i can to go to bed ready for another early start....................:blush::eh?:

Helping put the track out and away is part and parcel of being a member of the club though Dexter, its the same few putting the track out and away every week, and it the same faces coming in later and standing talking instead of helping set the track up( charging for not helping with the track isnt a good idea imo).

Mr Anderson ive sent you a pm:thumbsup:

lazysurfer 18-09-2011 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dexter24 (Post 555127)
From my point of view i can understand the point about needing more people to help put the track away but idont think that charging people extra for not helping isnt going to help the club out as for some of the racers are under 10 years old so obviously the dads will want to get them home as soon as possible to go to bed and as for other people who work shifts like me the only time i can race is when im on early shift which is 6-2:30 and as i work 18 mile i get up at 4:30am and also i live 25 mile away from tyne met so i wanna get home as soon as i can to go to bed ready for another early start....................:blush::eh?:

Don't worry I have no intention of fining anyone Dex. Always said anyone with a valid reason to miss either set up or clear up - I'd rather ther skip it than not race at all :-)

FastWheels 18-09-2011 10:06 PM

Altruism is the Ethos that drives TyneMet! :thumbsup:

Steven Forster 18-09-2011 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazysurfer (Post 555387)
Don't worry I have no intention of fining anyone Dex. Always said anyone with a valid reason to miss either set up or clear up - I'd rather ther skip it than not race at all :-)


I do help get the track out, mainly into the middle of the floor but havnt got a clue how everybody want it to be layed out and just feel like i am getting in the way and i also help pull the track over to the store room after racing and only leave once its all outside of the store room ready to be put inside............:blush:


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