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Dandare 04-03-2018 10:23 AM

I’ve just built mine with the transmission kit, without doubt you have to pretend you’ve travelled back in time when building it, by that I mean with regards to manufacturing costs & assembly methods etc. It needs fettling & tinkering (ie, choosing to use a few alternative screws/using nyloc nuts here & there) to help make it all work nicely & reliably.

Now built, it feels very pretty tough tbh, though time will tell :lol:

knighthawk 04-03-2018 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Avante2001R (Post 985138)
I mean who the hell uses self tappers into aluminium? For the eccentrics why could they have not tapped it and used fine screws? If Tamiya could manage it back in the 80s?.

This is how it was built back in the day, as we used to race it

If you want to replace the screws to metric I see Screws4rc do a set
Although sold out, M B Models list them https://www.rccarshop.co.uk/spares/s...nt-screw-kit-p

Avante2001R 04-03-2018 11:04 AM

Yeah true that’s how it was back in the day but 80s Tamiya look at the Avante Ok not great on the track but fit and finish of parts were so ahead of Schumacher. I mean flat head screws put me off buying one in 1989.

Peakey 04-03-2018 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Avante2001R (Post 985145)
Yeah true that’s how it was back in the day but 80s Tamiya look at the Avante Ok not great on the track but fit and finish of parts were so ahead of Schumacher. I mean flat head screws put me off buying one in 1989.

So change the screws :rolleyes: if your use to Tamiya then don’t buy one. Tamiya’s are toys made of plastic Schumacher’s are racing cars designed to work end of :thumbsup:

oldenoughtoknowbetter 04-03-2018 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Peakey (Post 985172)
So change the screws :rolleyes: if your use to Tamiya then don’t buy one. Tamiya’s are toys made of plastic Schumacher’s are racing cars designed to work end of :thumbsup:

Have to agree with the above. need more re re from schumacher though!!!!

Retro RC 05-03-2018 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Avante2001R (Post 985145)
Yeah true that’s how it was back in the day but 80s Tamiya look at the Avante Ok not great on the track but fit and finish of parts were so ahead of Schumacher. I mean flat head screws put me off buying one in 1989.

What a load of crap tamiyas all had self tappers and their plastics were rubbish, their Designs in the late eighties were and still are no where near what Schumacher were doing at the same time. As others have said if you don’t like it don’t buy it lol

oldenoughtoknowbetter 05-03-2018 07:04 PM

hhhhmmmm a bigwig or a cat xl. no competition

Avante2001R 06-03-2018 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Retro RC (Post 985179)
What a load of crap tamiyas all had self tappers and their plastics were rubbish, their Designs in the late eighties were and still are no where near what Schumacher were doing at the same time. As others have said if you don’t like it don’t buy it lol

Calm down why are you getting excited? I will buy what I want but It’s my view the quality and build of the Cat is a little on the poor side. I’m not talking about being competitive but first time fit and finish. No one said 80s Tamiya will eat a Cat on the track.

For anyone who is old enough to remember this did win the championship in 90 :D

https://s13.postimg.org/4dkb3xaqf/AB...DE370958_E.jpg

fidspeed 06-03-2018 03:41 PM

To be fair to both sides tamiyas were easy and pleasant to build and excellent for novices
On the other hand schumacher were race bred and designed for racing so it was expected that they were built by people with some experience

Horses for courses
Tamiya for fun/newbies/bashing
Schumacher for racing enthusiasts

Both have merits and drawbacks remember mobile phones were still the size of a suitcase 👍😀😀 oh the old rose tinted glasses

oldenoughtoknowbetter 12-03-2018 10:36 PM

xls
 
just doing a complete nut and bolt rebuild on mine at the moment after having alot of use. on inspection Im not too sure about the installation of the disc springs on the diff screw. I can see that the springs are sligtly concave. Its probably me being a bit thick but I dont think the manual is that clear about the orientation of the springs. The cat 2000 manual is alot clearer on this. Also (again its probably my age and poor eye sight) but the thrust race bearing - it says the smaller washer nearest the screw head but both washers appear exactly the same size. its probably just me being thick.

Peakey 12-03-2018 11:38 PM

I think one should be slightly thinner than the other and install the disc springs like this )()()( they’ll keep the diff screw tight

oldenoughtoknowbetter 13-03-2018 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Peakey (Post 985563)
I think one should be slightly thinner than the other and install the disc springs like this )()()( they’ll keep the diff screw tight

Ah that would make sense. I'm going instal the transmission upgrade. Am I right in thinking it only uses 2 diff springs? I know the 2000 s use 4

oldenoughtoknowbetter 20-03-2018 07:35 PM

Just bought a hex head screw set for my xls. the screws for the steering assembly look really small. does anybody know what size hex tool would fit. The smallest driver Ive got is a 1.5 and its too big

oldenoughtoknowbetter 16-04-2018 09:56 PM

What size are the standard kit tyres? I need order some new rears. are they 2 or 2.2?

Peakey 16-04-2018 10:14 PM

Original’s are 2.0

daz75 17-04-2018 06:04 AM

So after a few months of ownership what are people thinking of Schumacher first 're release?

fidspeed 17-04-2018 06:17 AM

Good turnout of them at Schumacher iconic challenge vintage racing at A1 on Sunday
Everyone appeared to have a good time with them

I have 3 now two yet to be built:D
Regards Dave n Mitch Fiddling

daz75 17-04-2018 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fidspeed (Post 987240)
Good turnout of them at Schumacher iconic challenge vintage racing at A1 on Sunday
Everyone appeared to have a good time with them

I have 3 now two yet to be built:D
Regards Dave n Mitch Fiddling

:lol: why 3?

Peakey 17-04-2018 09:09 AM

Cus he’s greedy

fidspeed 17-04-2018 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Peakey (Post 987247)
Cus he’s greedy

He has a point😀

One we bought to race
One we bought to stuff in attic till im dead
Last one a jammy win in worksop masters raffle
Thats 3 kit wins in 3 years 😀😀

Kf2 se in loft
Kc currently in use
Cat xls under the bed


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