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gazhillAE 17-01-2015 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by neallewis (Post 895443)
Side pod three back screws out and it bends to allow spur off. 30 sec job.
Can't believe someone actually complained about this saying the whole gearbox has to come out? I'm still on original spurs on both my Bmax2's.

Yokomo have done a fantastic job on this kit. Yes it's a premium price, but it needs nothing (other than a ball diff, if that's your preference). I'm super impressed with it, and happy to be one of the first to run theirs, but secretly hope that no one else buys one now :lol:

Looks good
Slightly more steering req imho so you can flick the front end in
Back brakes off slightly also it was pushing on massively
Watch yellow car this is how you want it

Gaz

dpackster1980 17-01-2015 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by neallewis (Post 895443)
Side pod three back screws out and it bends to allow spur off. 30 sec job.
Can't believe someone actually complained about this saying the whole gearbox has to come out? I'm still on original spurs on both my Bmax2's.

Yokomo have done a fantastic job on this kit. Yes it's a premium price, but it needs nothing (other than a ball diff, if that's your preference). I'm super impressed with it, and happy to be one of the first to run theirs, but secretly hope that no one else buys one now :lol:

I didn't say the gearbox has to come out. I'm not knocking it, the car maintenance wise is definitely going to be more time consuming compared to the B-Max2.

If it's faster then I'm not arsed.

neallewis 17-01-2015 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dpackster1980 (Post 895471)
I didn't say the gearbox has to come out. I'm not knocking it, the car maintenance wise is definitely going to be more time consuming compared to the B-Max2.

If it's faster then I'm not arsed.

I know you didn't mention gearbox, it was elsewhere.
I'm not daunted by maintenance. front end is more or less the same as bmax2 and i counted two extra screws to get gearbox out compared. four of those are the longer shock tower screws which take a bit more wrist action.
sure its not four screws to diff out like bmax4, but i appreciate the design. you can see how they started with the bmax2 and are where we are now.

neallewis 17-01-2015 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gazhillAE (Post 895452)
Looks good
Slightly more steering req imho so you can flick the front end in
Back brakes off slightly also it was pushing on massively
Watch yellow car this is how you want it

Gaz

No push on at all. what you see is my driving :thumbsup:.
James has his X6^2 dialed round there. home track and all... he's had lots if practice and this was my first outing with the new car

The super worn mini pins i was using has stopped turning my bmax2, which did push a lot with them on. the yz -2 was direct and precise, with loads of steering.

I'm also feeling a kick in power on throttle. no boost or turbo set, but i think its punch control? John Price also commented on it when having a go.

dpackster1980 17-01-2015 02:07 PM

Neal what caster were you running? It was definitely lacking mid corner and corner exit steering, turn in looked okay.

neallewis 17-01-2015 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dpackster1980 (Post 895499)
Neal what caster were you running? It was definitely lacking mid corner and corner exit steering, turn in looked okay.

Kit bulkhead, with 5deg caster block inserts.
I don't understand how you can say it lacked steering when you didn't drive it? Those who drove it didn't say that. please post a YouTube time so i can see what you are referring to. I suspect it's just my bad driving and lines.

Dannys was doing odd things, but he had 4wd front wheels on that were binding at full lock. he had no 2wd tyres and should have stuck to new pins to wear them in.

dpackster1980 17-01-2015 04:25 PM

The chicane next to the rostrum, not the one directly in front. The car was turning well but seemed to push wide on the exit. Whether it was some wild lines then fine but you were loosing time on other cars. At the end of the straight the car turned well and then the front end was sliding mid corner.

Might be down to tyres as well especially if they were new.

I presume yours was the green car.

tyreman 17-01-2015 05:48 PM

I've watched the video and to me it looks like you had no rear end, or the slipper was too tight/motor was to quick, as you never really looked to have the back of the car under control.
It's always hard to judge a new car first time out as you will always have that "new car syndrome" and on such a small track as well.
I've watched you drive at worksop with your Bmax 2 so there will be the real test, as to whether it is quicker or not.

neallewis 17-01-2015 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dpackster1980 (Post 895518)
The chicane next to the rostrum, not the one directly in front. The car was turning well but seemed to push wide on the exit. Whether it was some wild lines then fine but you were loosing time on other cars. At the end of the straight the car turned well and then the front end was sliding mid corner.

Might be down to tyres as well especially if they were new.

I presume yours was the green car.

Yup green.

Front tyres were worn to 0.5-1mm minipins that i used at worksop, rear were worn also, to about he same rate. These fronts do push on the bmax2, they felt perfect to me on this.

I'll check the video, but I suspect its my lines not the car. I recall earlier in rounds that I could take inside line precisely and pass other cars there. I passed John Price's vintage losi there a few times ;-)

It's safe, but steering when you want it. Tyres of course play a major part. The car setup (out the box) doesn't make it understeer.
Danny's did push, on brand new minipin rubber, but he had his setup different to me anyway. He tried some other tyres but struggle to get the balance right with not owning any fronts, then using 4wd rims on front.

The floor surface is polished rubber floor, with then a bit of surface dust. we brush up before he track is put down, but its still quite slippy, certainly on the wrong tyres. it does feel more grippy after a few rounds, but that goes off as the timed heating goes off in the hall at the end of the night and the temp drops.

neallewis 17-01-2015 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tyreman (Post 895526)
I've watched the video and to me it looks like you had no rear end, or the slipper was too tight/motor was to quick, as you never really looked to have the back of the car under control.
It's always hard to judge a new car first time out as you will always have that "new car syndrome" and on such a small track as well.
I've watched you drive at worksop with your Bmax 2 so there will be the real test, as to whether it is quicker or not.

This was a race, so I was a bit more trigger happy than in qualifying, plus I'm experiencing a step in the punch that I had on my old car also, and on my 4wd (same speedos, with same setup). The step seep
ms to kick in harshly, but there is no boost or turbo set, but its not linear. its punch control setting I think, which are on default. I just want it smooth and linear.

You are right, its a small track, and its slippy, so not the ideal first test. Worksop next week...
I don't have the previous meetings bmax2 filmed to compare. I was up against the same people (apart from Danny) and positioned the same from Q5 week previous. The track is surface is fairly consistent, and I'm comparing against how the bmax2v3 ran last time, and on the same tyres (after worksop last week). The car felt good to me. I let others try it and they said the same. I suspect its my driving not the car:thumbsup:

Danny Harrison 18-01-2015 10:11 AM

Ran mine at York last night. Struggled a lot in qualyfying, but got it right for finals. Was purely tires. Upon getting balanced tyres I went from 9th to 3rd in the A :).

It was a tiny bit looser on the very slippy parts (on power) than the fastest lads cars were, but was mega on the carpet sections and carried more speed even on the slippy sections. Just slightly looser on power.

Im certain I can make it work just as well as the traditional mids on low traction with just a bit more weight and rear bias. I was running it as light as possible and Im very impressed. :thumbsup:

dpackster1980 18-01-2015 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny Harrison (Post 895591)
Ran mine at York last night. Struggled a lot in qualyfying, but got it right for finals. Was purely tires. Upon getting balanced tyres I went from 9th to 3rd in the A :).

It was a tiny bit looser on the very slippy parts (on power) than the fastest lads cars were, but was mega on the carpet sections and carried more speed even on the slippy sections. Just slightly looser on power.

Im certain I can make it work just as well as the traditional mids on low traction with just a bit more weight and rear bias. I was running it as light as possible and Im very impressed. :thumbsup:

There's no shortage of space behind the motor to stick the old faithful lead weights when needed. Can't wait to run mine looking forward to it. Have you tried the rear shocks forward yet?

Luke Muldoon 18-01-2015 02:13 PM

Ordered mine yesterday, can't wait to build this!

Are there any astro set ups available yet? Returning to 2wd after a long break and I'm clueless.

mes 18-01-2015 02:52 PM

Tom Cockerill's Silverstone set-up:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...5d74ab0ab29ab9

Danny Harrison 19-01-2015 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dpackster1980 (Post 895600)
There's no shortage of space behind the motor to stick the old faithful lead weights when needed. Can't wait to run mine looking forward to it. Have you tried the rear shocks forward yet?

I havnt tried it yet mate

micholix 23-01-2015 07:47 AM

On some pictures, over on redrc I saw that Jorn Neumann is also driving an YZ-2!

skyaflake 23-01-2015 08:45 AM

Jup.. Some more drivers (Ronnefalk and Hara for example) are also driving the YZ-2.

Kimo 23-01-2015 04:55 PM

Waiting for mine to be delivered... :mad:
Switched too many times last couple of years so i hope with this one i finally got a car that so good its a keeper. :thumbsup:

alport 27-01-2015 09:37 AM

-There is a small piece on the body lexan sheet, it's behind the body cutting lines and has it's own cutting lines. It looks like a front wing but I can not be sure because I didn't saw any yz-2 with front wing . What is this part ?
- There are two cutting lines on the rear end of the body. which one should I use ?

PaulRotheram 27-01-2015 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by alport (Post 897084)
-There is a small piece on the body lexan sheet, it's behind the body cutting lines and has it's own cutting lines. It looks like a front wing but I can not be sure because I didn't saw any yz-2 with front wing . What is this part ?
- There are two cutting lines on the rear end of the body. which one should I use ?

Yep its a front wing, check the manual near body mounting ( near the back ) and it shows its to be used just behind the front shock tower, stuck down with double sided tape.


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