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PeterC 08-03-2013 06:15 AM

Has anyone run MR and RS back to back on the same clay base track? What characteristics did you notice between the two?

We are debating building up one buggy RS style and the other MR but that would mean sacrificing one brand new body on the configuration that doesn't end up working.

mes 08-03-2013 07:50 AM

If your clay track includes tight turns, you'll be able to carry more speed through them with mid motor. If it is a large clay track with low traction, go for rear motor. Choosing between both configurations also depends on your style of driving.
As the outdoor season in our region will only begin in late April, I haven't had a chance to test mid motor on clay, but for my driving style it should work.

s22jgs 08-03-2013 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PeterC (Post 753801)
Thank you. I did order a set of red fronts yesterday as well as another kit for my friend. We also got your recommended bmax4 wheel spacer and B4 rear hex.



Which piston? The black or white? Taper side up or down? 1.0mm vs 1.1mm. I have only one pair of the black pistons, last one they had. How did they affect the front end?



Plan to do just that but I would like the best starting point and go from there so I can save setup time and concentrate on driving. I want to make sure the car is not totally undrivable straight out of the box. We have two kits now and we're going to test back to back different things. We are excited!

Just try it as kit first. You need to understand how the car works and why its setup as is before you can start improving it to your style and track.

Kit springs are fine

cryer-evo 17-03-2013 09:59 PM

took my bmax2 mr out today at yatton very happy with it need a bit more stering whent for longer link on front and no limitters in shocks kit springs and whent from 42.5 losi oil to 32.5 oil in front all helped and 25g at the front getting where i wont it think next time out will take the spacer out from the inside front link
allso think i seen it on here will lowering the stiering hub help ? spacer on top ?

Bastos 19-03-2013 07:37 PM

New chassis is coming...
There are new stiffners on the internal edge of the chassis...
And looking the others photos of redrc... The nose is also improved.


http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/1...otoyokomo4.jpg

cryer-evo 19-03-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bastos (Post 757845)
New chassis is coming...
There are new stiffners on the internal edge of the chassis...
And looking the others photos of redrc... The nose is also improved.


http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/1...otoyokomo4.jpg

?? New chassis this just to stiffen it up our are peaple braking them ??

smokes 19-03-2013 08:55 PM

less flexy to take adavantage of the smoother clay tracks

Tom3012 19-03-2013 09:13 PM

Alloy shock caps too?

Bastos 19-03-2013 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cryer-evo (Post 757850)
?? New chassis this just to stiffen it up our are peaple braking them ??

I never break and never heard that this chassis can break...perhaps the term of "nose" is not right...the "front" of the chassis got little things for improvement.

As you say, just to stiffen it...
http://events.redrc.net/wp-content/u...toYokomo-2.jpg

Bastos 19-03-2013 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom3012 (Post 757872)
Alloy shock caps too?

Associated Bigbore shocks...

discothesnake 19-03-2013 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bastos (Post 757879)
Associated Bigbore shocks...


Mmmm....that's not good.

jonathan may 19-03-2013 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by discothesnake (Post 757902)
Mmmm....that's not good.

indeed im going to try ae bigbore pistons they are a perfect fit in the yokomo shocks

cryer-evo 19-03-2013 10:27 PM

As you say, just to stiffen it... :D.So is anyone making front end waights for this car yet ? could do with a 35g waight that would fit in the front nose :)

jonathan may 19-03-2013 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cryer-evo (Post 757905)
As you say, just to stiffen it... :D.So is anyone making front end waights for this car yet ? could do with a 35g waight that would fit in the front nose :)

been thinking about using some putty like wheel balance putty with some lead inside ? that stuff seems to stay in place

discostu 19-03-2013 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bastos (Post 757879)
Associated Bigbore shocks...

he had them on the 4wd too!

cryer-evo 19-03-2013 10:44 PM

any one know if the plastic would stand the heat of melted lead ?

discothesnake 19-03-2013 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jonathan may (Post 757904)
indeed im going to try ae bigbore pistons they are a perfect fit in the yokomo shocks

Yeah I've ordered some for my 4wd too.

jonathan may 19-03-2013 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cryer-evo (Post 757914)
any one know if the plastic would stand the heat of melted lead ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k8CskYWv9I

mekios 19-03-2013 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bastos (Post 757874)
I never break and never heard that this chassis can break...perhaps the term of "nose" is not right...the "front" of the chassis got little things for improvement.

As you say, just to stiffen it...
http://events.redrc.net/wp-content/u...toYokomo-2.jpg

It's not a chassis. It's some form of bronze weight i think, like under-servo weight.

Tom3012 19-03-2013 11:10 PM

Dont worry guys, im working on getting some weight in the front ;)

J'MM'N 19-03-2013 11:29 PM

The plate goes right back to the speedo, so I'm wondering if it acting as a stiffener as well, bit like the carbon one he had on his B-Max4.

Although the biggest problem with flex is around the battery compartment and a lot of this is relying on the battery clamp taking the flex out. Which is not the perfect answer and where I much prefer the stiffness of my old B-Max2 chassis, but that's RM only:(

Also he has six ally nuts either side of the saddle pack and at the back of the chassis, as though a plate could possibly be bolted below the chassis.

The servo also looks to be mounted further back.

A lot of questions, but he does do a lot of wacky experiments:rolleyes:

mekios 19-03-2013 11:55 PM

Those ally nuts are where the RM battery sidepods bolt on. So maybe he is having them so he can bolt the holes to not let dirt in... maybe...
I wouldn't pay much attention to all this madness though. He is one of a kind driver racing in a one of a kind track with insane amounts of traction.

discothesnake 20-03-2013 12:00 AM

I don't think the servo is further back. As he's using a full size servo there wouldn't be the room. I think the front bulkhead has been modified to make clearance for the servo horn. There is very little room to put weight under the servo hence the mod.

I think.....:blush:

mekios 20-03-2013 12:20 AM

What bothers me is this little piece of plastic. It isnt there in my car...

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/43397636/wte9md1h.jpg

mes 20-03-2013 05:13 AM

I wouldn't look for prototype parts on his 2WD, as there are many pictures around. However, there are no chassis shots at all of his 4WD ride; at least the shock towers are very different to what we all are used to... ;)
As for the weight in the front: Saddle pack-sized brass plates are a perfect fit under the Rx/ESC, at least if you use a low profile servo.

ScottyP 20-03-2013 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mes (Post 757956)
However, there are no chassis shots at all of his 4WD ride; at least the shock towers are very different to what we all are used to... ;)

His 4wd had a double deck carbon chassis, same as B44.

Rayzerp 20-03-2013 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jonathan may (Post 757904)
indeed im going to try ae bigbore pistons they are a perfect fit in the yokomo shocks

Ran them in my car last time out and felt much better...particularly at the rear. Yok shocks in general seem high quaility though so why swap completely to AE?

mes 20-03-2013 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottyP (Post 757959)
His 4wd had a double deck carbon chassis, same as B44.

How interesting!

J'MM'N 20-03-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mekios (Post 757942)
What bothers me is this little piece of plastic. It isnt there in my car...


The rib from the bulkhead to battery post has a much more prominent kink than the old one, where the caps are there is no longer a rib and the additional strengthening rib running parallel to saddle tray. Totally new chassis, although the most flex has still got to be between front and rear of battery tray.

Bastos 20-03-2013 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottyP (Post 757959)
His 4wd had a double deck carbon chassis, same as B44.

Where have you heard that ?...

Next EOS race, Naoto will be there...perhaps we will see something

Bastos 20-03-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by J'MM'N (Post 758016)
Totally new chassis, although the most flex has still got to be between front and rear of battery tray.

I'm agree...

ScottyP 20-03-2013 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bastos (Post 758018)
Where have you heard that ?...

Next EOS race, Naoto will be there...perhaps we will see something

Heard it directly from someone who saw the car at Cactus.

I also understand that the use of AE shocks was simply due to lack of testing time with their own shocks on US style tracks.

mes 21-03-2013 05:49 AM

Makes sense.:)

cryer-evo 24-03-2013 07:28 PM

took my bmax2 mr out at yatton for its first outing and after changing some things im very very happey with it took spacers out from under the iner link front and put losi orange spring on front with losi 32.5 oil no 2 piston and rear losi pink spring and losi 27.5 oil no 3 piston and added 45g up front :thumbsup:

cryer-evo 30-03-2013 12:31 PM

any one run with lipo down the middle ? and wots your thought ?

cryer-evo 31-03-2013 09:09 PM

TQ and a final win at yatton indoor club race for eggs with the bmax2 couldnt be any happier with this car car is so planted it fills like I'm going slow but clearly I'm not :-)

discothesnake 31-03-2013 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cryer-evo (Post 761468)
TQ and a final win at yatton indoor club race for eggs with the bmax2 couldnt be any happier with this car car is so planted it fills like I'm going slow but clearly I'm not :-)

Was that with your lipos down the middle?

cryer-evo 01-04-2013 10:37 AM

No saddle pack normal place not tryed down centre yet

wouter.z 01-04-2013 07:58 PM

first outing today with the yok in rear config, must say I'am really happy with the car.

We race on a very low traction Clay track and the car is very balanced especially after the added weight behind the battery. Also changed the pistons from front/rear 2/3 to 1/2 that made a big difference also.
Car still needs some work but really impressive for a first race meeting.

smokes 08-04-2013 12:01 PM

Dose Any one have any idea what to change on the kit setup to stop the rear end kicking out on the exits on a dusty astro turf.

using Shumacher Yellow mini spike rear blue insert
Schumacher Yellow narrow cut stagger ribs no insert front

Mid rear Config


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