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mintzant 19-07-2013 01:43 PM

Sorry I'm a little bid confused!
It's zxrr or zxs?
And the slipper?
I'm a lazer zxr fun but I have the classic part LA33 for rear diff and I would like to find all graphite parts like yours...
Help please...

Naushad 19-07-2013 04:02 PM

This looks interesting James...you should dedicate a separate thread for this!

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Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 790264)
Well here are some crappy pics of my new build as I got a bit bored. Im actually contimplating doing a Touring car but am a bit puzzled on wishbones. Ive managed to find an old pair of front wishbones and have started drilling the new castor block holes but the rear wishbone are going to be a bit of a problem. Shock towers will be simple to redesign as I just lower them to account for the smaller shocks and then fit my Ferrari 250 GTO shell on and game on :woot::thumbsup:


Welshy40 19-07-2013 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mintzant (Post 790307)
Sorry I'm a little bid confused!
It's zxrr or zxs?
And the slipper?
I'm a lazer zxr fun but I have the classic part LA33 for rear diff and I would like to find all graphite parts like yours...
Help please...

Its a mix. Tom from Racer magazine named it a ZXR-S. slipper is still a proto but if you dont mind a permanent 4wd drivetrain then Alcyon will sell the layshaft needed. RW sell my 100t B4 type spur gear in white or black and the Associated VTS slipper and B4 back slipper plate are sold everywhere.

However my gear box is not so easy to make as certain items are very rare so am hopefully within two weeks will come up with a new design for the rear gearbox in plastic and have our friendly 3D maker sell it at a vastly cheaper cost than my cf version. The design is tensioning the rear belt to a specific tension to stop the belt snapping, so has to be set at the exact tension my carbon fibre gearbox has been set to so patience will be needed but will be worth it.

Still if i can locate one item and you can discuss with Alcyon on getting a layshaft (my latest design which he hasnt made yet) plus be prepared to dremel a rear shock tower mount in two ares then i can help you out but its not cheap.

Also the carbon fibre tub chassis will be available again soon so that may tempt you as well

Welshy40 19-07-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Naushad (Post 790337)
This looks interesting James...you should dedicate a separate thread for this!

No need, its hearts a zxr thru and thru :thumbsup: However i may do it, in step by step build. I need to talk to my sponsor to get my Ferrari shell made and game on.

Tubs close to being molded so should have the cf tub hopefully start of August. Then with the gearbox will look stunning. Cf front and rear gearbox sides and chassis i know a lot of people wont want me to race it, but you know me.......:woot:

Qimb528 19-07-2013 08:15 PM

what body would fit the tube chassis?

HKS_TRD 20-07-2013 02:08 AM

Looks stunning James

Any more details on the CF front gearbox sides, sounds interesting

Welshy40 20-07-2013 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Qimb528 (Post 790389)
what body would fit the tube chassis?

Kamtec (links on bottom here) sell a tomcat shell. Picture is of the very first one made and thats the one im still using (green shell with red dragon on) Dan can confirm how good it looks for a five year old shell that gets usrd regularly. With the tub the shell with last a long time.

Welshy40 20-07-2013 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by HKS_TRD (Post 790448)
Looks stunning James

Any more details on the CF front gearbox sides, sounds interesting

No mate, im using Oosh's cf sided metal gearbox with of course my modification. Once ive sorted my gearbox and tub i see no reason why i cant have a think on how to do it.

HKS_TRD 20-07-2013 03:13 PM

I treated the ZX-R to a little something.

Does anyone have any of the 1200mah Sanyo Red SCR cells or even the regular yellow cells?

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...psdb4f936d.jpg

Welshy40 20-07-2013 04:00 PM

Why not lipos?

Welshy40 20-07-2013 04:23 PM

Dan,

As per your email pictures are posted. Have a look at page 157 and you should hopefully work out from that how to do it.

HKS_TRD 20-07-2013 04:23 PM

Just for shelfers wanted to keep electrics period correct

HKS_TRD 20-07-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 790560)
Dan,

As per your email pictures are posted. Have a look at page 157 and you should hopefully work out from that how to do it.

Thanks that helped. Where did you get the blue pivot blocks in the pics?

Welshy40 21-07-2013 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by HKS_TRD (Post 790578)
Thanks that helped. Where did you get the blue pivot blocks in the pics?

Teamline i believe.

Welshy40 21-07-2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HKS_TRD (Post 790561)
Just for shelfers wanted to keep electrics period correct

Well we didnt use thise nicads. All were individual cells and i used 1700 scrcs and before that 1700 sce's and before that 1400scr's

HKS_TRD 21-07-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 790714)
Well we didnt use thise nicads. All were individual cells and i used 1700 scrcs and before that 1700 sce's and before that 1400scr's

The ones I mentioned were individual cells too. I didn't know they went to 1700SCRs the last cells I saw were either 1200SCR or 1700SCE, never saw 1400SCR either. I have alot of lost ground to cover!

Welshy40 21-07-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HKS_TRD (Post 790723)
The ones I mentioned were individual cells too. I didn't know they went to 1700SCRs the last cells I saw were either 1200SCR or 1700SCE, never saw 1400SCR either. I have alot of lost ground to cover!

1400scr's were megga punchy but found you could not crash once if using a 10 double otherwise dump mod and no A final.

1700 sce cells were less punchy but more run time. The scrc's were almost as punchy as the 1400s but you could treat them badly and still get good runs. These were black cells.

Qimb528 23-07-2013 08:03 PM

Since the new buggies of Kyosho have aluminum chassis, wonder how would an aluminum chassis be beneficial to ZX series.

Welshy40 26-07-2013 07:56 AM

Guys need a favour quite quickly.

I need a picture of the tub chassis with a standard size servo fitted, not a smaller one like S9551 futaba, need a big servo like 9401 or standard futaba servo plus all items with exception of the top deck or reciever but still need included all mounts and steering fitted as well. Need it as ive been asked to supply so they can make sure the mold is aligned correctly so they can make my test chassis.

Thanks

Welshy40 26-07-2013 08:18 AM

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This ones for Iso. Are you drooling enough yet???? :drool:

BORMAC 28-07-2013 06:32 AM

LA-59 in alloy?
 
Just a quick question for those of you who might know, I am driving a modded ZX and have the wider stance up front with the LA-59 'C-Hubs. I have broken one and have thoughts to investigate if there is an alloy version of this revised part. Also are the TEAMLINE hubs standard with the wider stance and increased caster angle?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks- Jason

Welshy40 28-07-2013 01:13 PM

Teamline are identical in every way but are much stronger and ball raced. I used the wider front with those teamline hubs. Yes they did a 5.0 and a 7.5 version (which is .5 more than standard 7) but thats for major grip such as carpet.

BORMAC 29-07-2013 11:51 AM

Thank you Welshy. I don't suppose you know of any of these wider Teamline hubs around for sale (or trade) do you? I would really like to race my Lazer this year and have been told how great these items are.
Cheers-Jason

HKS_TRD 29-07-2013 12:32 PM

I believe Rondoola has some.
I've dyed one set black and another a darker blue but can't remember how many more sets I have, I've started doing a bit of a cleanout here things have gotten out of control

Welshy40 29-07-2013 04:27 PM

Yup my buddy Rondola is a good starting point.

BORMAC 30-07-2013 12:15 AM

Many thanks Welshy. I have sent him a PM.

As per Mr Pargu I am shocked to hear there are some troubles with him. Ok, so I know his delivery times vary greatly but I recently had a special request and he met it and didn't even charge me shipping. I've always received my orders (in the end) and I really like the stuff he sells. I take it you have had some troubles with him...?
I really want a full set of alloy pivot blocks and was thinking of purchasing his. Should I hold off and if so can I purchase these someplace else by chance?

Thanks again- Jason

Welshy40 30-07-2013 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BORMAC (Post 792751)
Many thanks Welshy. I have sent him a PM.

As per Mr Pargu I am shocked to hear there are some troubles with him. Ok, so I know his delivery times vary greatly but I recently had a special request and he met it and didn't even charge me shipping. I've always received my orders (in the end) and I really like the stuff he sells. I take it you have had some troubles with him...?
I really want a full set of alloy pivot blocks and was thinking of purchasing his. Should I hold off and if so can I purchase these someplace else by chance?

Thanks again- Jason

He never sent me a replacement for the incorrect pivot blocks i bought off him. He is not trust worthy as he ignored my last few emails. Im unsure if the silver versions ive seen on ebay are made by him or someone else, if not him then may be another alternative.

Welshy40 30-07-2013 08:19 AM

Ok Ive had an estimate so is not confirmation on costs yet but the tub chassis could possibly be around a £120.

As mentioned this is not confirmed for definite yet but if it is that price then I think that this is worth buying several.

What do you guys think?

Also after a discussion with Dan ive amended the screw driver hole to screw on or off the left gear cover and have extended to hole to an oval shape and believe may resolve this once and for all. I also didnt like other things Com Com did to my design such as taking out the oval hole for the servo so put that design back in as per the original proto type as it worked well. Ive also kept the wider rear end as on jimps the wider section gives more strength therefore protecting the chassis more. The bumper end a normal bumper does fit without issues.

Welshy40 30-07-2013 08:33 AM

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Chassis on the left is a hand made rubbish, the one on the right is the original with break in. As you can see the rear end I was describing and also the servo holes and you can just make out the screw driver hole bottom right which will be extended left and right.

Skidrow 30-07-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 792781)
Chassis on the left is a hand made rubbish, the one on the right is the original with break in. As you can see the rear end I was describing and also the servo holes and you can just make out the screw driver hole bottom right which will be extended left and right.

whats the problem with the chassis on the left james?

Welshy40 30-07-2013 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Skidrow (Post 792788)
whats the problem with the chassis on the left james?

It was done using the undertray as the base and didnt come out well. Holes were manually drilled so not in the correct place. Its basically no good but had it for fibrelyte to use as a starting point that was until i got my hands on my original chassis on the right

Skidrow 30-07-2013 10:43 AM

I see. Materialwise is it good? Thickness compared to the fibrelyte one?


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Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 792801)
It was done using the undertray as the base and didnt come out well. Holes were manually drilled so not in the correct place. Its basically no good but had it for fibrelyte to use as a starting point that was until i got my hands on my original chassis on the right


Welshy40 30-07-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Skidrow (Post 792804)
I see. Materialwise is it good? Thickness compared to the fibrelyte one?

Not really, it feels rough and brittle but is expected for a home made chassis.

The tub from fibrelyte is perfect however and they are basically the only maker for this car. Yes different names like comcom or wasp but all made in the same place but not with the same cell layout as per my right picture. This is a quality piece of kit, i used my proto chassis for ten years, three club events a week plus a race on the weekend and was still in good nick when i sold it on. The intention for the design was to protect my servo and esc from marshals feet and less flex but didnt realise how good a design it was.

HKS_TRD 03-08-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 792781)
Chassis on the left is a hand made rubbish, the one on the right is the original with break in. As you can see the rear end I was describing and also the servo holes and you can just make out the screw driver hole bottom right which will be extended left and right.

Great to see progress made on the new tub. I'm definitely in for one.
All this talk of tubs inspired me to mock up some parts on my used tub, I'll post some pics before the weekend is through

HKS_TRD 04-08-2013 03:21 PM

As promised some pics of my tub, along with my current Lazer collection of ZX, ZX-R MKII and ZX-S
Its only a mock up with parts that are meant for the ZX, some anodised bits are still in transit and it needs a strip and all new srews and a thorough clean.
I marked in Red where I need to cut the tub to fit the ZX body, as I am building a second tub I have almost decided to use this tub on the ZX shelfer.
I've already got a genuine clear gear cover on the way, I didn't like the way the repro one fit it was a little tight, probably works fine on a MKII where the front edge needs to be cut off anyway

When I strip it I'll start a new thread for it, sorry for all the pics

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps168505b3.jpg

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http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps71c761a2.jpg

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps7da03931.jpg

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http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...pscc93dc29.jpg

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Welshy40 04-08-2013 08:48 PM

Nice, i see they made a design flaw with the steering side sections. My original design was perfect and they tried to make it better. Doh!!! Still never thought the zx shell fitted.

HKS_TRD 04-08-2013 10:42 PM

Hi James

Can you post a pic of the steering section of your original tub?
I'm still at odds about cutting the tub but think I most likely will as its only a small mod

The ZX shell doesn't fit the ZX-R undertray and it turns out that after I have done this mod the ZX shell will probably fit the tub better than the ZX-R shell. The shell of my yellow MKII which is a genuine shell and not a smaller repro is a very tight fit around the front area of the tub

alcyon 05-08-2013 12:41 AM

Hi Welshy40, I have finally got time to run my LWB mid at a newly opened dirt track near where I live, and I find that the car holds up well in the rough stuff, no broken parts, just a few screws holding the shocks came loose. and the slipper works great. However I fond that the car does not handle the bumps so well. The track isn't smooth, with a lot of bumps and ruts, I had my car overturned countless times. of course this track is more suited to the 1/8 buggies. Is there any tips you can give me to make my car not be thrown off so easily when its in it's course. I really have trouble with the back end hopping out. Also , a startling revelation, The old kyosho tyres for the ZX-R, the W-50XX series, they actually grip better than the modern j concepts soft tires! Does kyosho still make those tyres ? I will be starting the new layshaft proto today.

Welshy40 05-08-2013 06:00 AM

Alcyon

I find softening the oil by 5wt on the back and maybe going down a spring strength is a good starting point. Maybe also trying a roll bar. Front oil should be heavier fractionally and also a heavier spring compared to the rear.

Welshy40 07-08-2013 12:16 PM

Who was after a Hyper clutch recently? I can locate a slipper disk where the spur gear attaches to but will be pricey unfortunately.

Also the correct part nunber for the layshaft is LAW12-1Z and you may find this on the japanese ebay.

Two available here. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kyosho-LAW...#ht_1599wt_958


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