Ron, unfortunately no idea. They werent any good to use as all my testing on the first batch they all snapped in the first 30 seconds. I would recommend approaching the belt makers who sell repros on ebay and ask if they could do them in blue.

Hi guys, first post here from Australia. I have been slowly going through this thread and have found it very interesting indeed.

Long story short, back when I was a pup I got a ZX-Sport for my birthday and for various reasons I never got it finished. Recently after taking a break for work life I have dragged out the Lazer to get going and have some fun!

Trouble was when I opened the box lots of bits were missing. So I have slowly accumulated the parts required to get it going. Which has conveniently allowed me to upgrade it to 2.4ghz radio, lipo, brushless motor and ESC.

Took it for its first run a couple of days ago and man am I hooked! Broke front drive belt, open diffs suck and tyres rock hard (only good for drifting).

I want to spec it up to Zx-R and beyond.

Dangerously a few scotch and cokes later, an iPad and eBay and I am going to be on a first name basis with the postman!

Few questions:
What parts would I need to upgrade to a slipper clutch setup?
Will 3racing ZX5 shocks fit (I think they will)
Has anyone got a solution for DIY stabilizers (not really keen on the price of OT-54)
Where can I get carbon shock mounts from to change the shock position?
I bought LA245 universals, thinking they are for the front, but from a quick scan of this thread that is wrong, but maybe they will fit the rear? I need the 65mm for the front?

Not sure if the carbon tubs mentioned in this thread will fit the ZX-Sport, so I am going to get a friend who is a master craftsman in carbon etc to make a new chassis (not sure if there would be a market for them?)

Anyway so glad I found this thread, keep the info coming in.
Cheers,
Tim

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Tim,

This will cost you a lot. You will need to replace pretty much the whole car to make it into a zxr. I can sort you out with a rear gearbox with a zxr mk1 slipper clutch attached and spur gear but need to think on a price as some items are rare. I dont have the layshaft pulleys spare so youll need to aquire those from somewhere.

Look up fibrelyte, the links below in my name tag. They do all for the zx and r. I would advise a mk1 chassis so would go for the zx main chassis anda single section top deck. You will also need the L brace. Shock towers i would go for the front semicircular handle type as its the strongest, rear its dowm to what you like. Its expensive but the carbon fibre weave is stronger.

Hi Welshy,
Thanks for your reply, I would be very interested in your zx-r rear gearbox. Have a think about price and PM me. So from what I gather all I would need is the LA-11 for the layshaft pulleys?

How goes the progress with the SC10/B4 slipper clutch conversions?

Reason I ask is I am running a 10T Brushless and am concerned the MK1 slipper won't be up to the task :p

Ive finally finished tinkering with the layshaft and it is done. Alcyon can supply you with a layshaft but may take time to get made as it took me 2 months to get it but was worth the wait. Ive basically designed it around a vts slipper clutch due to it being easier to set and more beneficial to saving the drive train. It also felt easier to drive and was quicker than a standard B4 slipper.

But im now contimplating asking our new 3d maker to do a modification to the rear gearbox as well but am still looking at the original and comparing to my cf design to work out exactly where the tensioner bearings should be. This may take me some time but aim to get that done soon as well which should be easier to work on. Mind you my cf design is the best out there but does take time to rebuild if a belt does snap. For this buggy it would be nice to have a choice.

Mk1 slipper should be sufficient enough for a 10t brushless just in case your wondering.

Mmm cost for my gearbox is in the air. Need to discuss with Fibrelyte, who do the side plates, motor plate, L brace (my version with tensioner screw section) to get the costs which i will do tomorrow. you will need those to make it.

Youll need to get new screws as well. You need to locate LA112 post set and bearings (3x6mm x 6)

You will need alloy pivot blocks (not the new ones sold on ebay or by Paragu) as well as diff and LA11.

I should be able to get the next batch done quicker because my machinist seems freer at this time. However I have to get the shaft now made in hard steel because if you don't lock the front one way it will wear out the shaft at that area really quick. I will be waiting for your input welshy40 for any final changes because I do not have VTS parts with me.

Until i get mine back in the next two weeks i will be unable to tell if the extension suits both slippers but will update. To be honest if you dont use the one way then the normal material is good, but if you need a one way then yes hardend steel is needed.

I just want to run the B4 slipper as I already have one, is there a layshaft available to suit that?

Is that the polished finish? How many of those do yo have.
One thing I noticed is the postage prices on the shapeways site are a little steep

Polish. Looks rough but quite smooth. I have one. Postage price set by shapeways, nothing I can do.

Yes Alcyon can do you one but you have to lock the one way up. Ive extended the last design by 2.75mm and believe that should be enough to fit a B4 slipper. In two weeks i will know for definite

Problem is if you want to use the B4 slipper, the VTS parts wont line up, and vice versa. Its best I only make 1 type of layshaft to save cost, so I guess we have to with welshy preference which VTS then I guess I will make only VTS version. For the optima mid however, it will the B4 standard slipper.

I will most likely be in for one of the shafts, sorry I am a bit behind the times I am only up to page 150 of this thread. Still digesting all the details!

Its not your fault, don't fret. We did not finalise the design yet. anyway I have a shaft with me now for the standard B4 clutch. let me test fit it into my ZX to see how it goes.

No, by extending the threaded section out by another 2.75 to the end of the last design slipper at the side of the layshaft the B4 slipper should fit perfectly. The VTS slipper is basically based around a B4 slipper so will fit perfectly on this shaft. I should get a definite within two weeks.

My last design was to move the slipper plate closer to the motor plate so the gear cover gave plenty of room for use of the VTS, i did make a mistake in my measurements amd turned out i was 2.75mm too short at the slipper threaded end so was off a bit. My fault but we are at the end of testing and just need confirmation shortly to see if its a perfect fit for both slippers.

Went along to my first club race meeting tonight for a look. Excited much? Like a kid in a candy store! Can't wait to get my ZX up and racing!

Would you want to sell this shaft then, it sounds like what I need

Dan, for the gearbox you will fit it into i would advise waiting a little while longer. Its going to be perfect.

I'm OK to wait I was just getting a little confused in thinking that the final design was only going to work with the VTS slipper

Dan,

This is whats happening at the moment. This is the final stage and should suit both slippers. The hardend steel is for me as i use the one way and have it set loose, but the standard version Alcyon will be doing wont be hardend but can be done for more cost. if you dont like the one way then the standard layshaft is fine and as normal with Alcyon the finished product is an art form on its own.

OK I understand now
How many pieces is it, I thought it was just one but in the drawing you are specifying which sections need to be hardened which implies it is more than one piece.

I'm not sure if I do or don't want the one way but it would be nice to have he option, what are the pros and cons of running it?

On another topic, long story but I somehow now have an ezy-run, how decent are these, I haven't had a chance to even learn what the deal is with LiPo batteries and brushless motors, I'm still stuck in the days of brushed motors and 1200ma SCR cells!

One piece but the current one is not hardend and decided to send mine off to have the pole sections cut out and hardend steel welded in as i need it quite quickly. I made a mistake with just the threaded end by shortening it too much and didnt want to burden Alcyon with getting it done in time so have a machinist in the uk doing it.

On high grip for my style of driving the one way gives me a second a lap so am slower with a permanent 4wd. It gives me more speed in and out of corners at a tighter line with my tub chassis. But a lot of top guys on lower grip like clay and dirt the one way gets tightend to make the car total 4wd as its better on tracks like that.

Im unsure on the ezrun so cant help you there. Personally go for the HPI / Tekin RS Pro or LRP escs as they are rather good. The HPI has a built in switch so much neater. Motors, i love the losi exorlerin (i think thats how to spell it) or LRP X20 but havent tried anything else. Be warned use a 5.5, 6.5 or 7.5 only if you have built my gearbox as with no tensioners youll snap the rear and front belts.

Lipos unless you have the raised rear top deck mount you have to uses 4400 or less as the top deck mount gets in the way and stops the battery getting in. With the raised section a 5500 lipo saddle will fit but you must use the demon products banana plug for joining the two packs together in the middle as those plugs are lower meaning once the cells are located in the lipo trays and locked in place by the holder the connectors have enough space to avoid touching the top deck, so no shorting.

Thanks for that info

I need to pick out some shock towers for my tub car
I have your rear tower which looks like the ZX-S one but not sure which one to get for the front, the one you did that looks like the ZX-S one is the obvious choide but I'm not sure how I could use a ZX-R body with that, though I'm not certain what body will go on my tub car yet, its either Tomcat or ZX-R. Do you have pics of your car with the body on from the front?

I use the semicircular or my zxs design tower with tomcat shell. I will update with a pic later as im unable to due to being at silverstone f1. Im front row on woodcote corner

I was in the Woodcote stand too! Small world :D

Most true. Im burnt big time, what a day.

Poms and a hot summers day, Don't mix! Aloe Vera Gel and Asprin will help relieve the pain.

On a side note why don't the pargu alloy arm brackets fit/work? And what is the alternative? Sorry if this has been covered before, still only up to page 165.

Yes us Poms may not handle the sun but ive drank many an Oz under the table. Boy what a holiday, in a stunning country where you feel safe, the people are tops but its what you dont see can kill you. Ok i was very hammered whilst flicking the ten or so red backs off me whilst waking up in a garden and lucky whilst very drunk not to have been bitten by the funnelweb i happened to pick up. The ozy saved my life by killing it. Still loved it there.

On to cars and paragus are narrower,its like he has made a mold but taken the original out before it sets so when he made more they came out smaller. Its possible he made an error with his measurements on the original he based it on but they are all narrower so means wishbones rub and width is slightly off and it makes a big difference to handling characteristics.

i just realised something. Racer mag with replica of Masamis XLS. Firstly the collection of buggies, well my design zxr is dead centre in white. Also page 110 bottom left red towel next to the chaps is my ZXR-S. Then page 109 top right im the one on the left eating my bacon and eggs and look as i felt quite rough.:thumbsup:

got a scan of it ?

Not yet, but the pic of the zx based on my design is on here.

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthre...=122353&page=2

Imitation - the sincerest form of flattery ?
 

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Sorry I just couldn't resist when I saw this at Tesco's...

Quality. :woot:

Ok here is a picture of the mag pages so apologies for it not being fantastic. First page the Losi guys who work for Horizon were bottom left and I pitted next to them, very nice chaps, you can see my red Kyosho towel and my car sitting in the corner next to my best mate wearing the grey top Mr Nuclear RC David Belsten. Next page top right you can see me eating and apologioes for not having a hair cut, so looked a mess. Dave Belsten next to me and Dave Church just down from him.

messy hair ? is that you with the glasses? correct me If I am wrong but it seems you have an army crop.

No army crop, I decided not to join the Marines. Glasses yes. :thumbsup:

anyone try to use shorty on vintage lazer?

For me, No as it upsets the balance. But no reason why you cant do a test and update us all.

Out of frustration in still not getting my layshaft back from my machinist here in the uk ive just done a rebuild of Oosh123 layshaft. Ok i had issues with it originally so did a rethink on it. Ive thrown the pulley that you lock onto the layshaft and taken the one way pulley and reversed it and put a few spacers in front thus pushing it out to where it should be. Then ive gone and added a zxs oneway in with a flanged bearing which also spaces the pulley to the correct position. Then a few washers and think on how the bearings are held in place by the locking washers on my cf gearbox and its done. Ok ive a little problem and need a worn or used one way plate for the zx or zxr so i can fit it properly but never the less the vts fits with 1mm gap between the back slipper plate and motor plate. Ok you cant use brakes due to the oneways but seeing as i dont use brakes who cares. Now as ive been bored ive started making another car, now just need my tub so that can get fitted to my racer then the chassis from that will go on this and game on

Well here are some crappy pics of my new build as I got a bit bored. Im actually contimplating doing a Touring car but am a bit puzzled on wishbones. Ive managed to find an old pair of front wishbones and have started drilling the new castor block holes but the rear wishbone are going to be a bit of a problem. Shock towers will be simple to redesign as I just lower them to account for the smaller shocks and then fit my Ferrari 250 GTO shell on and game on :woot::thumbsup: