I still don't know why people have problems with AE shocks?!

On the latest set I built for my new BJ4 they have changed the spacers that you put in the body with the o rings which are thinner, so you don't have to skim a bit of thickness off the middle one like it says to do in Elvo's guide to get them free. The shock tops seem to get harder to thread onto the shock body the first time with each set I build, but if you put a slight angle on the inside of where the thread starts before you put them on for the first time it's no problem, takes all of 5 seconds with some sandpaper.

Bleeding them is easy too, fill to the top of the shock body with the shaft fully out, screw the top on slightly, push the shaft all the way in and tighten the cap fully, easy :)

Richard,

What is this 'Elvos Guide' and do you have a link at all?

Thanks

Guessing it's because bladders don't actually eliminate air in the shock they just move it behind a bladder, so the shock isn't 100% filled with oil and under the displacement of the piston this will compress by differing amounts depending how fast the piston moves, probably only a small difference but certainly from an engineering point of view the AE shocks are more 'correct' than others on the market, whether this actually makes a major difference considering they're ridiculously hard to build consistently is debatable though

Little question.

When building the gearbox of the B44 the manual states not to use any grease in it.

Should I use grease in it??

Bladder shocks will always have rebound when assembled, it is in the nature of the design.

An emulsion shock like the AE one can be built without any rebound if that is what you prefer in terms of handling. But the downside is that there will always be that tiny squeak of air bubbles.

I think a shock without rebound will generate more grip and perhaps handle the bumps a bit better? Maybe this is why it is the hot setup for offroad?

I assume you could also fit Yokomo bladders and caps onto the AE shocks if you really wanted to, maybe the AE touring bladders would fit too?

I recall fitting bladders onto my old Lazer ZX-5 shocks, although they were a lot easier to build, the car didn't seem quite as settled on the track, but that could have been in my head!

I've tried to buy some mate and it dies as soon as I try to make the Paypal payment :confused: Just gives me an error message.

Any concrete dates on the release yet.

rumor is this friday or monday the 3rd

Ive never had a problem building AE shocks :confused: and its not like i have much experiance building shocks in genral, mine are always full, bled properly and work well, dont ever have a problem.

I should have mine next week, late next week hopefully.
I loosely heard that CML think the CML boat will have arrived by then too..fingers crossed!

I saw a B44 (unfinished build) on Friday night and let out some of that 'sex-wee' from that other thread all over it.
I dont think Wes noticed...*evil laugh*

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Thanks Tel (of tels shells!)

so dialled!

Nice!!!

Traitor! :p :p :p

Now now, don't be jealous :)

I know I'm jealous that your off to florida and I'm stuck here!!!!

I agree with you Jimmy and Stefke, AE shocks delivered with 1/10 offroad kits, need an update. They are still the same since the begin of 80's !

So I wonder why AE shocks for RC8 are built with bladders and thoses for RC10Bxx without?

I'm going to guess the shocks have not been updated because they are probably good enough and Associated can save money or focus on other things to make better?

Anyway, could anyone confirm wether these are the Yokomo caps and bladders that fit the Associated shocks please:

#YS-8D Diaphram Shock Cap Set

PodiumRC has them for £7.99 a set

There is a current mod I have read about to drill a hole in the shock cap on the RC8 to let the air out from behind the bladder, otherwise they don't work well.

I think you'll find they haven't changed due to saving $$$, no other reason.

G

Of course! Bladders don't work if there is a closed chamber of air behind them.

From the master! :cool:

G

It is true that you need escape for air behind the bladder. That said, i really can't think of any good reason why a bladder shock wouldn't work for 10th off rd. Touring car shocks all use bladders, and seemingly 1/8 may do as well.

You can build a bladder shock with no re-bound if you want to - it's easy!! In fact i find bladder shocks easier to "tune" for rebound, so i can't see any reason not to use them!!

Thank you Matthew, that's exactly what I wanted to hear ;)

I mounted VCS2 kit (ASC31120) on my body shocks and as you said, it's really easy to fill and tune the rebound (according the position of the piston in the body when the bladder is mounted). Moreover in the plastic cap, there's a tiny hole to let the air come in and out between bladder and cap. Once assemblied, the shocks are so smoooooth, without any bubble, just oil inside :D