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Juicy74 28-02-2013 11:53 PM

What tires would you guys recommend on this car for a clay track? Was looking at schumacher tires and they look interesting but no one i know has any experience with them.

mes 01-03-2013 05:42 AM

Schumacher have no clay tyres. I mostly use Pro-Line Holeshots/Wide Ribs on clay, but AKA, JConcepts and Sweep also make great tyres. Check out what the other drivers at your track put on their rides. ;)

s22jgs 01-03-2013 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy74 (Post 751350)
What tires would you guys recommend on this car for a clay track? Was looking at schumacher tires and they look interesting but no one i know has any experience with them.

If it helps, I believe the base setup is for clay and yokomo use dboots tyres

cryer-evo 01-03-2013 11:21 AM

Is there a good bass set up for indoor carpet/ astro hi grip ? Building mine up tonight

s22jgs 01-03-2013 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cryer-evo (Post 751458)
Is there a good bass set up for indoor carpet/ astro hi grip ? Building mine up tonight

Check mine from barham on 17 Feb I think it is on the mb yoko Facebook page.
That's full astro and was very good. I found the front had a little too much bite in slower twisty sections but was awesome on faster and sweeper type corners.

cryer-evo 01-03-2013 12:44 PM

Ok will youse that as my bass setting then do you think my be lousing a wosher of the inside front ball stud might of helped ?

smokes 01-03-2013 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s22jgs (Post 751341)
800cst mate

I had issues with the gear diff though. Even without oil it was way too tight, felt like 50k oil so I removed the tiny shim under the pins. Fixed the tightness but may have caused the gears to eat themselves.

I think the issue is the casing being slightly too large making the outlive tight. A better solution may have been to shave half a mm off the outside casing where it meets the outdrive

If you have problems with the parts e-mail [email protected]

s22jgs 01-03-2013 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cryer-evo (Post 751472)
Ok will youse that as my bass setting then do you think my be lousing a wosher of the inside front ball stud might of helped ?

That would increase the steeeing further

Juicy74 01-03-2013 03:07 PM

Schumacher doesn't have clay tires? Why not?

Juicy74 01-03-2013 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s22jgs (Post 751430)
If it helps, I believe the base setup is for clay and yokomo use dboots tyres

dBoots have some interesting tires but they dont' have anything under clay. But I'm guessing multibyte or nanobytes might be a good choice?

discothesnake 01-03-2013 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy74 (Post 751517)
Schumacher doesn't have clay tires? Why not?

Schumacher are a British company and make tyres for the British/European market. They make tyres to run on astro and grass. There is not much clay racing over here.

JConcepts, Proline etc do not make tyres for astro so it is just catering to your audience.

jonathan may 01-03-2013 11:59 PM

any good carpet setups out there

Juicy74 02-03-2013 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by discothesnake (Post 751529)
Schumacher are a British company and make tyres for the British/European market. They make tyres to run on astro and grass. There is not much clay racing over here.

JConcepts, Proline etc do not make tyres for astro so it is just catering to your audience.

Ahhhh.... Makes sense.

PeterC 02-03-2013 03:27 AM

Hi, I just bought one of these and can not wait to build it. I haven't found a great deal of information or support for this buggy. Looks like only a small group of people are running it.

Do you have any tips to help me with the assembly or durability? Any help is appreciated.:D

mes 02-03-2013 08:15 AM

As Yokomo was neglected in Europe and US the last few years it is no wonder that the cars are a relatively rare sight. I've run the original B-Max2 last season and found it to be the most durable and easy to drive car I ever had in twenty years of RC - I am getting old! :p.
With the recent release of the MR version, the car will become even more popular among racers and lazy guys (optional gear diff... ;) ). It will be interesting to see what the Yokomo guys have up their sleeves for the worlds this year.

zzztech 02-03-2013 08:33 AM

The Bmax2 MR is such a versatile car. I've tried mid motor with saddle, will also fit shorty side way, and now I converted to rear motor, and it fits a full stick even with a full sized servo. Feels really good now on outdoor clay :)

Juicy74 02-03-2013 11:10 AM

Narrow suspension mounts
 
Can someone tell me what do the narrow suspension mounts do? The manual doesn't say anything. Sorry if its a dumb question, newbie here. :D

Thanks!

zzztech 02-03-2013 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy74 (Post 751741)
Can someone tell me what do the narrow suspension mounts do? The manual doesn't say anything. Sorry if its a dumb question, newbie here. :D

Thanks!

Narrower width up front will help if your buggy is too loose. But its not the first thing you'd want to do.

s22jgs 02-03-2013 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy74 (Post 751741)
Can someone tell me what do the narrow suspension mounts do? The manual doesn't say anything. Sorry if its a dumb question, newbie here. :D

Thanks!

Give you a smaller front track width making the car more nimble and responsive on the front end.

mes 02-03-2013 12:43 PM

I am about to try the narrow front end for the first time at the NRW-Offroad-Cup race in Dortmund on 11 April. Car turns on a dime in my living room. :thumbsup:

Juicy74 02-03-2013 12:47 PM

Thanks for the replies guys... however as I understand it, both answers seem to be opposite of each other?

"help if your buggy is too loose" which means the narrow mounts should reduce steering response?

"making the car more nimble and responsive on the front end" meaning it should increase steering response?

mekios 03-03-2013 10:12 PM

I have a question for those who have build the car in Rear Motor or anyone who wants to answer.
Speedo on the shelf above the battery or on the side? I mounted it on the side but it's a really tight fit (i have the HW V3 which is a rather small speedo) exposing the speedo on the side.
Judging by the space on the shelf it will be a hard job getting the wirring done.

So, what's your opinion and/or suggestion? (Photos are more than welcome :woot:)

Bastos 03-03-2013 11:03 PM

If you have to choose a good configuration for rear motor, it is that one :
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3300/2v6p6537.jpg

Speedo/Shorty battery/Reicever/Servo on line...( I haven't got photos of mine...winter period...Mid motor rules :) )

Rear motor is the king on slippery tracks...with the shorty battery centered.
It depend on which battery you are using...but the Bmax2 works well "light" with shorty battery.

Stringerhot 04-03-2013 08:03 AM

Surface
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s22jgs (Post 740102)
following on from the talk about steering.

I removed both spacers from front shocks, went long wheel base and also moved rear shocks to middle hole on the tower and i had bags of steering.

Hi Steve this set up you've used what surface was it on polished floor?carpet

smokes 04-03-2013 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterC (Post 751700)
Hi, I just bought one of these and can not wait to build it. I haven't found a great deal of information or support for this buggy. Looks like only a small group of people are running it.

Do you have any tips to help me with the assembly or durability? Any help is appreciated.:D

Seem be be a fair amount of drivers running them at batley. Just build as per kit instructions and run it, get the ae fron axles.

OneKiwi 04-03-2013 03:28 PM

Would the wheel attachments from a durango 210 fronts/rears work?

AndyG 04-03-2013 04:17 PM

front - yes, straight fit.

Rears - no. After you've put the TD / Tresrey 14mm hex onto the driveshaft you've a) not got enough thread coming through the wheel to get a nut on, and b) you've got a big gap between the hex and the hub - the drive shaft therefore floats.

Wonder if a TD driveshaft would work?

s22jgs 04-03-2013 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stringerhot (Post 752333)
Hi Steve this set up you've used what surface was it on polished floor?carpet

not running that anymore mate

jonathan may 04-03-2013 08:32 PM

what springs are a good starting point for carpet

s22jgs 04-03-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonathan may (Post 752583)
what springs are a good starting point for carpet

Run it kit first

zzztech 05-03-2013 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy74 (Post 751769)
Thanks for the replies guys... however as I understand it, both answers seem to be opposite of each other?

"help if your buggy is too loose" which means the narrow mounts should reduce steering response?

"making the car more nimble and responsive on the front end" meaning it should increase steering response?

Your rear end will be more stable compared to the front end after narrowing front.

jonathan may 06-03-2013 01:18 PM

What shock oil and pistons are peeps using. I have number 2 piston 35w oil and yokomo blue spring but it feels far to soft

highlander 06-03-2013 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonathan may (Post 753155)
What shock oil and pistons are peeps using. I have number 2 piston 35w oil and yokomo blue spring but it feels far to soft


john just use the std set up as Steve has said....

you havent even run the car yet

start with the kit setup its a fair allround starting point thats why yoko put it to the kit................

PeterC 06-03-2013 10:35 PM

Rear Motor Setup advice for newbie
 
So I've built the kit up and had a stellar time. Everything drops in nicely with no hand fitting required. :thumbsup:

This is my first offroad car. My experience is only limited to mod 1/10 sedan so I'm planning to run 17.5 non-timing offroad in rear motor configuration.

My questions:

Seeing how this car is marketed primarily in MR configuration, how does the base setup fare when running in rear motor config?
For instance, I've looked at the Yatabe setup for clay and although it is in MR config, the shock oil is significantly lower viscosity (22.5wt vs stock 400cst).

What kind of FDR should I be looking at for 17.5 non-timing? (Motor: Reedy Sonic)

Background:
I'm going to be running the car in southern California mainly at 2 tracks:

1) WCRC(Site of 2013 Reedy Race of Champions)
-indoor
-hard packed clay
-medium to high traction
2)IERC
-indoor
-medium packed clay known to clog tires
-low to medium traction

Per recommendations from fellow racers, I've mounted the following tires that will work at both tracks:
-Rear Proline Suburb MC
-AKA Red insert
-Front Proline Scrubs MC
-AKA Red insert

Any setup and driving tips no matter how seemingly small or insignificant are more than welcome and appreciated! Please share your knowledge here in or PM. I am eager to learn from all of you.

thanks:)

J'MM'N 06-03-2013 10:58 PM

As your in California these two threads may be of help to you.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...gy-thread.html

http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...ax2-mr-rs.html

PeterC 07-03-2013 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J'MM'N (Post 753444)


Thanks! I have looked at those threads too!

mes 07-03-2013 07:26 AM

IIRC I used 72/28 as a starting point for my 17.5 motor. Cannot comment on California tracks, but on clay I mostly use red springs in the front, blues in the rear. Stock oil is quite ok, give it a try!

zzztech 07-03-2013 08:21 AM

I too vouch for the red spring in front. The stock front springs are too soft.
I have 60wt Losi oil in front with the 6 holes pistons and felt good. tried 450cst and didn't like it. Rear is 350cst oil

s22jgs 08-03-2013 12:00 AM

It really depends on track. Oil and springs that work on one track won't elsewhere so don't get too hung up on what others are running. Its a new car and people have different styles. The best example of this is the setups of the worlds top boys. Try one and you might hate it.

The best thing you can do is go to track with a range of oils and springs and just try different things

PeterC 08-03-2013 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mes (Post 753485)
IIRC I used 72/28 as a starting point for my 17.5 motor. Cannot comment on California tracks, but on clay I mostly use red springs in the front, blues in the rear. Stock oil is quite ok, give it a try!

Thank you. I did order a set of red fronts yesterday as well as another kit for my friend. We also got your recommended bmax4 wheel spacer and B4 rear hex.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zzztech (Post 753493)
I too vouch for the red spring in front. The stock front springs are too soft.
I have 60wt Losi oil in front with the 6 holes pistons and felt good. tried 450cst and didn't like it. Rear is 350cst oil

Which piston? The black or white? Taper side up or down? 1.0mm vs 1.1mm. I have only one pair of the black pistons, last one they had. How did they affect the front end?

Quote:

Originally Posted by s22jgs (Post 753788)
It really depends on track. Oil and springs that work on one track won't elsewhere so don't get too hung up on what others are running. Its a new car and people have different styles. The best example of this is the setups of the worlds top boys. Try one and you might hate it.

The best thing you can do is go to track with a range of oils and springs and just try different things

Plan to do just that but I would like the best starting point and go from there so I can save setup time and concentrate on driving. I want to make sure the car is not totally undrivable straight out of the box. We have two kits now and we're going to test back to back different things. We are excited!


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