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SiTrace 14-09-2016 12:20 PM
2017 xb2 carpet edition
 
Anyone got any specs or pics yet? I can't find anything online.

Thanks

Si

bomber 14-09-2016 01:47 PM
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:D:D:D:D

SiTrace 14-09-2016 08:19 PM
Thanks bomber.

tintinontour 16-09-2016 09:59 AM
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Here you go:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...00000887562618

MHeadling 16-09-2016 10:19 AM
nice looking yz2!! :p

bomber 16-09-2016 11:01 AM
Exactly as per my photo :D

fil9144 16-09-2016 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by tintinontour (Post 956789)
might be a stupid question but what have they changed?

they changed the gearbox would that need a new car to do that?

PaulRotheram 16-09-2016 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by fil9144 (Post 956797)
might be a stupid question but what have they changed?

they changed the gearbox would that need a new car to do that?
Its X-ray - so yes. absolute joke if you ask me, has to be something else substantial to justify it.

leestokey 16-09-2016 03:08 PM
http://eos.redrc.net

tintinontour 16-09-2016 03:17 PM
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http://eos.redrc.net/2016/09/chassis...rtin-wollanka/

tintinontour 16-09-2016 03:25 PM
Pretty much every carpet edition/version 2wd car looks the same now. Same as the yoke that is...

fil9144 16-09-2016 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tintinontour (Post 956807)
think they got this wrong xray as 2017 car got new gearbox doesnt make any sense to me.....

i bought a xb2 as soon as they came out but i regert selling my carbon RB6
setup up took bit of work because the base setup in the manual was quite far out. once setup was very good car but would i have then bought a 2017 no way because i spent my money on a all round car Rb6.6 every gearbox one car prob cost me more than 2 cars but i have the wear on one chassis and my 2 shiny shells... think the whole 2 car thing maybe getting out of hand as people are being priced out which doesnt effect me i am lucky but its a ture fact

simonrhart 16-09-2016 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by fil9144 (Post 956813)
think they got this wrong xray as 2017 car got new gearbox doesnt make any sense to me.....
It does make sense, because it looks like the new car has a 3 gear laydown to give more forward traction and less rear grip. I don't know about your Xb2 but I have had to work hard to get the car to turn in as fast as I want it to. I had to buy the brass kick up, optional Ackerman, and change setup quite a bit, i.e. completely remove rear toe, take out the elevation in the front casters. To be honest it still doesn't turn in as fast as I'd like it to, that said I do love it. Is it worth spending £300 on another kit, I think so just because I love building kits! :)

fil9144 16-09-2016 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by simonrhart (Post 956818)
It does make sense, because it looks like the new car has a 3 gear laydown to give more forward traction and less rear grip. I don't know about your Xb2 but I have had to work hard to get the car to turn in as fast as I want it to. I had to buy the brass kick up, optional Ackerman, and change setup quite a bit, i.e. completely remove rear toe, take out the elevation in the front casters. To be honest it still doesn't turn in as fast as I'd like it to, that said I do love it. Is it worth spending £300 on another kit, I think so just because I love building kits! :)
my point is why not just buy a gearbox?

simonrhart 18-09-2016 08:43 PM
For sure, you can just buy a new gearbox and retro fit to the '16 car. This is what I will do. If there are more changes (which there is not in this case to my understanding) then I welcome new cars - this is innovation so then we as racers have the choice to buy the new cars and innovation or stick with our older cars. Not sure why people get bent out of shape over innovation, this really baffles me.

Simon

J77MYF 18-09-2016 10:45 PM
I think I'll get the 17 model when it's released. My 2016 XB2 has been the best car I've ever owned and I'll be keeping it as my lower traction car. Doesn't the 2017 car have a new diff? Potentially you may need to buy the gear cases, idler, diff and anything else that's needed to make it work. Not sure if anything else has changed??

neallewis 20-09-2016 08:47 AM
Diffs were still exploding at EOS, ask Paul Cropton. the 2017 car is the same as the 2016 car except that the rear gearbox is 3 gear, not 4 gear.
The new dirt car is some time off.

fil9144 20-09-2016 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by neallewis (Post 957094)
Diffs were still exploding at EOS, ask Paul Cropton. the 2017 car is the same as the 2016 car except that the rear gearbox is 3 gear, not 4 gear.
The new dirt car is some time off.
Going to be honest I never had any issue with my Geardiff or ball diff I did get my hand in my pocket for steel gears & pins though reacher than kit plastic

shaun m 20-09-2016 03:17 PM
Mines still on the same /orignal gears , been used pretty much every weekend all year, mine had leaked a bit out of the case , but i think i've over tightened the screws and warped the case.

BentKa 20-09-2016 03:41 PM
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shaun m 20-09-2016 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BentKa (Post 957122)
Are you for real Neal :confused::o

This is excactly how stupid rumours get started by people that don't know s**t.

If Paul's diff is "exploding" I'll gladly teach him how to build a diff.......sounds like he could use a little help.

We tried some different weights in the XB2 diff but settled on 15K due to the silly tire wear of the new MiniPin1 tires......and it worked awesome.

As far as I know, after talking to all of them, none of the Team Drivers had diff issues. And that includes Bruno C., Martin B., Martin W., Hupo H., Nico N., Joel V., Kaja N., Milan M., Max G. and us.

But maybe you know something that none of us drivers know of....... :wtf:

Bent
:thumbsup::thumbsup:

spiboom85 20-09-2016 03:58 PM
Well said,, can I just make it clear that Paul Crompton striped 2 idler gears,,,,, he did not have a exploding diff😂😂 as it's put :thumbsup:

BentKa 20-09-2016 04:00 PM
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shaun m 20-09-2016 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BentKa (Post 957130)
And the entire team ran the same diff in the new XT2 truck as well with no issues both in the stock class and the modified class with boosted 6.5T and bigger truck tires.

I guess we ran the entire weekend with blown diffs without knowing......... :rolleyes:

Bent
:thumbsup:

BentKa 20-09-2016 04:05 PM
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mes 20-09-2016 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by spiboom85 (Post 957129)
Well said,, can I just make it clear that Paul Crompton striped 2 idler gears,,,,, he did not have a exploding diff😂😂 as it's put :thumbsup:
While I value your clarification on the gearbox issues, I don't agree with "well said". TBH Bent's reply put me more off than an "exploding" diff could have done. I don't know if Bent and Neal have history or not, but as a rare guest in the xray forums I must admit I am a little shocked.

IMHO a new car due to a new gearbox does make sense indeed. While nobody has to buy the full kit if he or she already has the '16 version, it would be annoying for a new customer having to buy the old version and the new parts to get to bring it to the current level and thus spend more than necessary.
Further to the issues not experienced by the team: In my experience, average drivers often suffer damage where pro drivers don't. I've seen plenty Durangos and TeamCs fail in the hands of mere mortals while the likes of Jörn Neumann have finished their meeting on the very same track and day without any problems. As I am not that skilled, I tend to bulletproof most of my kits with titanium turnbuckles, aluminium parts and the like. Any (valid) failure reports on forums are valuable when it comes to choosing a new kit.

BentKa 20-09-2016 05:09 PM
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neallewis 20-09-2016 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BentKa (Post 957122)
Are you for real Neal :confused::o

This is excactly how stupid rumours get started by people that don't know s**t.

If Paul's diff is "exploding" I'll gladly teach him how to build a diff.......sounds like he could use a little help.

We tried some different weights in the XB2 diff but settled on 15K due to the silly tire wear of the new MiniPin1 tires......and it worked awesome.

As far as I know, after talking to all of them, none of the Team Drivers had diff issues. And that includes Bruno C., Martin B., Martin W., Hupo H., Nico N., Joel V., Kaja N., Milan M., Max G. and us.

But maybe you know something that none of us drivers know of....... :wtf:

Bent
Paul told me his diff broke when I asked about how his finals went. That's all I know.
Local club racers I speak with have also had issues with the diff design, and I've seen calls for a revision to seal it properly as it likes to leak oil, and also chew plastic gears. I'll leave it there, as I don't run the car, so can't comment any further.

Bent, don't attack me personally. Speaking of self proclaimed ex-spurts, Remember back a few meetings ago, you were the one who told me the barking/slipping ball diff noise I was hearing "was a combination of the motor and slipper clutch", when you knew fair well that it was a slipping ball diff. Quite why you were running a ball diff on such high traction carpet was clearly masking another issue? I smelled bull-sh*t then, and you were trying to cover up a badly performing or setup car, when there was really no need to.
I realise you are defending your product and team, but sometimes issues happen, be honest about it, and you learn and move on. Automatic defence and a failure to understand consumer's issue with a product, creates suspicion and doubt, which people will then perceive as a negative, and maybe the rumours become truth? Stupid rumours get started when the company doesn't listen to the people having the issues, blaming them, not the product... And by the way, I haven't started any rumours.

I agree with you on the tyre wear, and I saw this coming based on how they wear back home, compared with originals.

This last weekend saw some fantastic performances from xray team drivers, Hupo, Joel, Kaja, and others up to the usual tricks ;-)

neallewis 20-09-2016 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BentKa (Post 957141)
We don't have a "history" other than him coming on the Xray threads to spread false rumors.

He knows all to well that none of the drivers had problems with "exploding" diffs at the EOS........so why come on here and report problems that don't exist ?!?!?

Oh wait......he's a Yokomo fan boy :lol:

I helped out a ton of Xray drivers at the EOS with setup and not a single one had diff issues.

On the other hand the YZ4 is going through idler gears like they were made of crackers.

Dont't see Neal mentioning that do you :rolleyes::lol:

If you come on another brands thread to spread false info you can only expect to be treated accordingly.

Or do you think he should be entitled to spread whatever rumors he finds to his liking :confused:

Nuff said.......

Bent
No Mes, we haven't, I've always had the greatest respect for Bent and what's doing with his talented daughter.

I'd always said he was a nice person when local xray customers had been attacked or had had a heated discussion with him for raising an issue or question about their product, and had asked me about him as they knew I'd met him personally.

I'm no yokomo fan boy, no more than Bent is of xray. I pay my money for stuff I like. I've played the xray "luxury price tag" game, and won't be going back, certainly not now, despite the new XB4 being a fantastic performing car.

Remember bent, i'm not the one advertising and working for a brand in a public forum. Your comments and personal attacks do reflect on the xray brand.

BentKa 20-09-2016 06:14 PM
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fil9144 20-09-2016 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mes (Post 957139)
While I value your clarification on the gearbox issues, I don't agree with "well said". TBH Bent's reply put me more off than an "exploding" diff could have done. I don't know if Bent and Neal have history or not, but as a rare guest in the xray forums I must admit I am a little shocked.

IMHO a new car due to a new gearbox does make sense indeed. While nobody has to buy the full kit if he or she already has the '16 version, it would be annoying for a new customer having to buy the old version and the new parts to get to bring it to the current level and thus spend more than necessary.
Further to the issues not experienced by the team: In my experience, average drivers often suffer damage where pro drivers don't. I've seen plenty Durangos and TeamCs fail in the hands of mere mortals while the likes of Jörn Neumann have finished their meeting on the very same track and day without any problems. As I am not that skilled, I tend to bulletproof most of my kits with titanium turnbuckles, aluminium parts and the like. Any (valid) failure reports on forums are valuable when it comes to choosing a new kit.
Bent honest xray guy daugther team driver
Neil hates everything not Yokomo which i think is fair to say :)

fil9144 20-09-2016 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BentKa (Post 957146)
You haven't started any rumors by clearly stating that Xray have a problem with exploding gear diffs :confused: Come on.......get real.

If you are referring to us running the ball diff at the last round of the EOS in April......yes we were running it as Malin always prefers the ball diff over the gear diff.......but in that one heat I put the ball diff in the wrong way and with all the hard braking it worked itself loose and Malin had a very rare DNF.

Was that any fault of the ball diff ? No, only a mistake by myself changing diff 2 minutes before her heat started and failing to do my job properly.

And yes we always run a ball diff if the track is not too tight.
If it is filled with 180's we run a gear diff as the ball diff limits rotation.

And no......the gear diff doesn't leak if you build it correctly.
As in soaking the the orings in silicone oil before assembly and NOT covering them in grease (which will hinder the orings swelling and sealing properly).

2 mistakes commonly made building the gear diff is;
  1. Over tightening the 2.5 mm screws allowing the diff house to expand and leak oil as well as ruin the mesh of the satellite and planet gears.
  2. Covering the orings in grease stopping them from swelling and keeping the diff leak free.


Stupid rumors get started by people like you not knowing what you are on about.

And yes I consider myself an "expert" on the XB2 as we have been involved since day one running all the different layouts, materials and printed parts.

At the most we've had 4 different cars running simultaneously to compare setups, layouts and materials.




I am a nice person :)

I just don't tolerate people spreading false information and then trying to defend it when called out.

I help 10-15 Xray drivers each and every day with issues, setups and what to order and where.

I don't have any I ssues with 990 out 1000 users........but you always have those that can not or won't be helped or just want to argue for the sake of arguing.

My knowledge is based on first hand use and development of the product and direct feedback from hundreds of users, yours on the other hand is based on hearsay.

And yet you are the one with exclusive rights on reporting "problems"........problems that don't exist.

And if you feel I'm attacking you maybe you should stop spreading hearsay and starting rumors ?

If not then yes I will keep calling you out on it.

Grow up Neal :)

Maybe we should discuss how the YZ4 drivers are using AE idler gears to keep them from stripping constantly instead ?!?!?!

Bent
i must say i have owned a Xb2 and i had no gearbox issues ever i just didnt rush putting it together...

the only real thing was the new kyosho coming out and i am a big kyosho fan but fair play to bent with all your posts and help on FB and on here

honrico Diablo 20-09-2016 07:23 PM
I think everyone needs to calm down........before someone blows a diff!

neallewis 20-09-2016 07:25 PM
http://eos.redrc.net/wp-content/uplo...n-1200x720.jpg

One does not simply start rumours about exploding diffs, or idler gears

Jedward 20-09-2016 07:25 PM
BREAKING NEWS....disaster hits XRAY HQ when new diff testing ends in tears!
http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/...pskktvtmhi.jpg[/URL][/IMG]

honrico Diablo 20-09-2016 07:27 PM
oi....that's how rumors start!

Steven Forster 20-09-2016 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedward (Post 957159)
BREAKING NEWS....disaster hits XRAY HQ when new diff testing ends in tears!
http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/...pskktvtmhi.jpg[/URL][/IMG]
:woot::woot::woot::p:p:p

Steven Forster 20-09-2016 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by honrico Diablo (Post 957156)
I think everyone needs to calm down........before someone blows a diff!
Quote:
Originally Posted by honrico Diablo (Post 957160)
oi....that's how rumors start!
:woot::woot::woot:

h0m3sy 20-09-2016 07:31 PM
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...psewa1rc3q.jpg

neallewis 20-09-2016 07:32 PM


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